Clove vs Coriander

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  1. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    We do not use Wyeast 3711 in Tank 7. I would say it's closer to 3787. We use the same yeast strain to ferment Tank 7 Farmhouse Ale, Long Strange Tripel, The Sixth Glass and Dark Truth. We're definitely seeing 4VG produced during fermentation.
     
    #21 JeremyDanner, Mar 30, 2015
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  2. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    Coriander hangs around and clove steps around. One is delicate and one is bold.
     
    #22 rgordon, Mar 30, 2015
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  3. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    Tank 7 is not spiced.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Thanks for clarifying the yeast used to brew Tank 7. I use 3787 a lot (about 4 batches a year). I have never specifically noticed any "clove" in my beers using 3787 but I do get a lot of other phenolics in these beers.

    Do you personally perceive "clove" in Tank 7?

    Cheers!
     
    #24 JackHorzempa, Mar 30, 2015
  5. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    Yes. "We're definitely seeing 4VG produced during fermentation." 4VG presents as clove-like. I don't think it's a dominant flavor, but it's there. For me, the star of Tank 7 is more of a bubblegum flavor/aroma contrasted by the grapefruit/citrus character of Amarillo hops.
     
    #25 JeremyDanner, Mar 30, 2015
  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Do you conduct a ferulic acid rest as part of your mashing regime?

    Cheers!
     
    #26 JackHorzempa, Mar 30, 2015
  7. DaverCS

    DaverCS Savant (1,212) Dec 9, 2014 Arizona

    Try almost any Hefe and you will get a big whiff of clove.
     
    #27 DaverCS, Mar 30, 2015
  8. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    We're mashing in a bit higher than that. The lowest rest for any of the beers I mentioned is 60 C.
     
    #28 JeremyDanner, Mar 30, 2015
  9. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    Good stuff in here, thanks all. Funny because for me the clove/spice flavor was very prominent, as much so as the citrus.
     
    #29 Kadonny, Mar 31, 2015
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