Cloying

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  1. Nicolas_James

    Nicolas_James Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Illinois

    I like condensed in this. Reminds me of sweetened condensed milk. So cloying
     
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  2. HorseheadsHophead

    HorseheadsHophead Grand Pooh-Bah (3,732) Sep 15, 2014 Colorado
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    Update: I tried Jack's Abby's and Sly Fox's Oktoberfestbier tonight and I liked them both. They were not cloying like Sam Adams' Octoberfest.
     
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  3. IannG

    IannG Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2011 Connecticut

    This 100%. I wouldn't describe any Oktoberfest I've had as cloying but I could see where someone would describe an Oktoberfest as cloyingly sweet in comparison to other more balanced or hop forward Oktoberfests. Southern Tier Creme Brulee would also get my vote as a "cloyingly sweet" beer if your looking for a frame of reference.
     
  4. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I remember thinking 120 minute ale was cloying.

    Also involves the mouthfeel, imho. Full mouthfeel +super sweet and there's a chance of me saying. .this is cloying.
     
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  5. SeanBond

    SeanBond Pooh-Bah (2,904) Jul 30, 2013 Illinois
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    I use it under two circumstances:

    1) When the beer is just too sweet (Prop '15, Dark Lord)

    2) When the beer isn't necessarily too sweet, but when the sweetness clashes enough with the beer that it is either on the verge of bothering me, or actively does (high ABV NE IPAs, sometimes)


    For what it's worth, I like sweet beer, so generally I still enjoy cloyingly sweet ones, but they're typically the type that I need time away from to enjoy again.
     
  6. Hwk-I-St8

    Hwk-I-St8 Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2016 Iowa

    I use it to describe a beer that has either a sweetness or other strong flavor note that, at first tastes good but, after drinking more it becomes grating.

    A good recent example was a Dark Lord variant share we had last week. I've always liked Dark Lord but have had it only in small doses. We opened 6 variants, but I was burned out on the raisin/sweetness of DL before we got close to the end. One variant in particular (I can't remember if it was Trump and Pump or Quit Hitting Yourself) was so sweet it was almost undrinkable but the first sip or two was pleasant. The share started out great, but at this point the thought of opening my remaining DL's is repulsive.

    It's a good thing we had other beers as palate cleansers in between.

    btw- FVM and Ronaldo were the best by far if anyone cares.
     
  7. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    To be honest, I've been misusing the term. I almost certainly gained my misconception from other beer reviews.

    It likely has been an evolution of the word overall. Excessively sweet or syrupy becomes something with a sweetness which does not fade, which in time becomes more of a catch-all for: too sweet; syrupy; long-lasting; sticky.

    I agree, though; I, and I suspect most beer reviewers, have used the term without intending to portray abject disgust.
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well,....

    You may not have been wrong given that more than one online dictionary allows for it to mean disgusting sweetness or simply too sweet to be enjoyable, etc.

    Many words have a field or range of meanings. Just think of the difference between your use of the word "game" when with your kids and its use when you are doing serious work for months at a time.
     
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  9. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    To me, in the beer realm, Cloying does mean sweet, but usually also with extra flavors in. I've had some overly sweet oatmeal stouts that I didn't find that way, but something like Crème Brulee is (as someone mentioned above) I've had Dark Lord on several occasions, and the bottles are wildly different. One of them I could describe that way, another was incredible, the others good to pretty good.
    I find most spiced beers (especially pumpkin and holiday beers) to be cloying - besides being sweet (a high FG) most of the brewers tend to overdo it on the spices, especially nutmeg and cloves. A little bit can be good, but not too much.
     
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