CO2 leak problems...

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by phattysbox, Mar 18, 2012.

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  1. phattysbox

    phattysbox Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2008 New York

    Just wanted to get your opinions here.

    Before I started having problems my 5 lb CO2 tank would last close to 4-5 months depending on usage. Lately, however, my turn-around for CO2 usage has been 1-2 months and I'm unable to find any leaks. I only have two kegs at a time hooked up to CO2.

    I have a dual regulator with an extra port (3 total) for using with my Blichmann beer gun. I checked (using soap) all points where I could think CO2 is being leaked from - nothing. Pressurized to about 30 psi to check for leaks - nothing.

    This last round (this has been going on for most of the year) I pressurized a keg to about 25 psi for one day to get a bit more CO2 volume. The next day, the gas was close to empty and I got this CO2 tank 1.5 months ago. On its last legs, I closed the valves to the kegs and gas still went to zero, suggesting I have a faulty regulator. However, I can find the leak for the life of me. If soaped up my regulator so many times, its spotless.

    Anyone else have tough CO2 problems? What did you do to solve them?

    Cheers,

    J
     
  2. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    Try a new seal for the tank connection. Slow leaks there can be hard to detect with soap. I replace that seal with every tank exchange now. I think they're only about $0.75.

    I have some hard to detect leaks like that as well. I think I have mine narrowed down to my secondary regulators. I'm looking for instructions on how to rebuild them (if even possible).
     
  3. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    There is a gasket that needs to go inside regulator between it and the gas tank. Its a small plastic piece might be cracked or not there at all. Good luck.
     
  4. phattysbox

    phattysbox Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2008 New York

    Yes, Naugled mentioned the same thing. Replaced this two leaks ago. Check and check...

    :slight_frown:

    J
     
  5. michaeltrego

    michaeltrego Crusader (447) May 21, 2004 New Hampshire

    Did you check the safety plug / pressure relief valve that is opposite the regulator on the stem of the tank?
     
  6. phattysbox

    phattysbox Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2008 New York

  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  8. michaeltrego

    michaeltrego Crusader (447) May 21, 2004 New Hampshire

  9. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

     
  10. phattysbox

    phattysbox Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2008 New York


    Huh... Well, I haven't checked this part - you have me there. However, after changing out the tanks 3-4 times, and getting new tanks every time, I figure this won't be an issue. I'll check when I get back home though.

    J
     
  11. michaeltrego

    michaeltrego Crusader (447) May 21, 2004 New Hampshire

    Oh, I didn't realize you tried it with different tanks and had the same problem.....so, it's unlikely the tank relief valve... All signs then point to the regulator. I've never done this before, but with the kegs disconnected could you dunk the whole regulator and tank valve in a tub of water all at once?
     
  12. phattysbox

    phattysbox Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2008 New York

    I like this idea! Will this screw up my regulator somehow? Can anyone else chime in? Anyone try this?
     
  13. WickedSluggy

    WickedSluggy Savant (1,129) Nov 21, 2008 Texas

    If water is a problem I wonder if you could use alcohol or acetone. Acetone is great because it would dries very quickly. I wonder if it could be used for this. It will dissolve certain polymers and other various other substances, but it probably can be used with a regulator.

    ULTRASONIC LEAK DETECTION

    If you know someone who repairs air-conditioning units you might find out if they have an ultrasonic leak detector. Leaking pressurized gasses actually make a lot of noise, but usually it's at about twice the maximum audible frequency range. There are devices that will basically convert the noise from the leak into something you can hear (and see)

     
  14. Naugled

    Naugled Pooh-Bah (1,944) Sep 25, 2007 New York
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    I don't think it's a good idea but I have done that, and didn't find any leaks. I 'baked' the regulators immediately after words to dry them. I used a small ceramic space heater with a fan. It seemed to dry ok, and still works, but some of the exterior screws around the gauges do show signs of rust. I've never opened up the assembly to see if there is any other signs of damage from the water dunk test. However, I am looking for a rebuild kit for this though. I'd like to rebuilt it to see if that fixes things. But I can't seem to find a rebuilt kit for a Perlick secondary regulator.
     
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