Cocoa Nibs & Vanilla: Mash? Boil? Both?

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  1. RUN-4-B33R

    RUN-4-B33R Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2015 North Carolina

    I'm working on a recipe for my first stout and was hoping to get some insight in to how/when to add vanilla (Beans or extract) and cocoa nibs when brewing. Best methods?

    Any advice/tips are greatly appreciated.
     
  2. pants678

    pants678 Maven (1,374) Jan 26, 2009 California
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    Secondary, both of them. First off, don't go spend $8 on a single vanilla bean at Whole Foods (yes, I did that). You can soak the bean in vodka or StarSan but that's not always necessary. Slice the bean in half, scrape the inside powder into your beer, drop bean in beer. Same goes for the nibs, except no splitting/scraping necessary.
     
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  3. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    +1…secondary is the place. I've been tempted to try adding them at the end of the boil, but I generally stick with post-fermentation additions for them.
     
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  4. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Or skip secondary and add them to the keg in a Muslim bag.
     
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  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    +2 to secondary, but lightly crush the nibs, I get more flavor.
     
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  6. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Muslin*
    Fucking auto correct.
     
  7. WertMaker

    WertMaker Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2009 Oregon

    +1 on secondary. I just split the beans and add them with the Nibs before racking to the carboy.
     
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  8. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    I currently have 4 vanilla beans soaking in some bourbon and I intend on tossing them in a milk stout at kegging.
     
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  9. BeboThoughts

    BeboThoughts Zealot (559) Mar 24, 2012 Canada (ON)
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    How many vanilla beans are people using for a 5 gallon batch of say an 8% oatmeal stout?
     
  10. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    From all my research, people normally add 2 beans. I honk that by me adding 4, it will be a bit much. But then again, I am trying to make a Starbucks like beer. Aka white girl wasted.
     
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  11. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    ***think not honk, lol
     
  12. WertMaker

    WertMaker Initiate (0) Jan 17, 2009 Oregon

    I added one to my Wheat Wine 7.5 gallons.... But, it sat on that and Coco Nibs for three months.... Then when into the Whiskey barrel...
     
  13. Scumbag81

    Scumbag81 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2014 California
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    For nibs I've switched to adding them at flameout and transferring the bag to the fermenter for the duration of fermentation. Nibs can have a lot of bacteria on them, and were the source of one of my two infections to date (the other was a bad batch of yeast from).

    The tincture works too for nibs, but I prefer the flavor I get from leaving them in the beer and pulling or racking off.

    Like everyone else, I ad the vanilla beans in a tincture or just cut up, into the fermenter.
     
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  14. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I like vanilla beans in a tincture thrown into secondary as well. I have had good luck putting nibs in at flameout. Like @Scumbag81 I also had an issue with nibs in secondary.
     
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  15. telejunkie

    telejunkie Savant (1,107) Sep 14, 2007 Vermont

    That's an interesting idea…I've seen somebody do this for pumpkin but not for nibs.
    So I always buy unroasted beans, so roast them myself and then crush them and soak them in vodka for a while before adding to the beer…so no real issues with bacteria. Still, I like the idea of a hot soak of the nibs too as you guys advocate.
     
  16. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    I just brewed a Porter last weekend that called for and addition of Cocoa Nibs at 1 minute left in the boil. I dumped them right into the batch but had lots of issues transferring from the boil kettle to the primary fermenter. Once I had about 3/4 of the batch transferred the nibs started to clog the siphon and I had a hell of a time getting the last 1/4 moved over. The instructions did not call for a muslin bag and for some reason (this being my first experience with them) I thought they were actual chocolate and would melt, I did not know they were actual beans.

    What is the best way to use these in the future? Should I have steeped the bag while the batch cooled until transfer and then discarded? Should I have left the bag in during primary fermentation?
     
  17. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    You can put the nibs in a sanitized jar, then add some boiling water to cover the nibs. Let them steep for an hour or until they get below 140F. Pitch nibs and water in secondary for a week or two. Works every time!
     
  18. drinkybanjo

    drinkybanjo Crusader (457) Sep 4, 2008 New Jersey

    Okay, thanks for the tip, I'll try that next time.
     
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  19. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I might use this for a beer I just brewed.
     
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  20. RUN-4-B33R

    RUN-4-B33R Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2015 North Carolina

    Thank you everyone! This is all very helpful.

    So Here's my recipe so far for a 1 gallon batch:

    Imperial Stout

    2.7 lbs. American 2-Row OR Stout Malt

    0.4 lbs. Chocolate Rye Malt

    0.2 lbs. Caramel 120 Malt OR Dark Crystal Malt

    0.1 lbs. Caramel 15 Malt OR Honey Malt

    0.1 lbs. Black Patent Malt OR Chocolate Malt

    0.3 lbs. Flaked Barley

    0.2 Carafa 1 2-Row Barley Malt OR Carafa 3

    Additions: Vanilla Bean & Cocoa Nibs (Bourbon Soaked)

    Thoughts? Better ideas?
     
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