Coconut questions help suggestions!

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  1. Cabbage_pants1

    Cabbage_pants1 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Indiana

    So in researching the coconut for brewing I am stumbling into more questions than answers originally I was going to add a couple pounds of fresh coconut to the boil and just hope for the best... Now I'm finding out that toasted coconut seems to be the more reasonable option... As for when to add it I was thinking, now, of dropping it into the secondary. That's about as far as I've gotten... A couple of questions:

    A) How much?... I'm thinking 3 lbs of toasted coconut for a 5 gallon addition...
    B) When? Secondary or try pitching somewhere toward the end of the boil?
    C) Will the oils of the coconut ruin the smooth head and body I'm going for? I know oils can impede retention...
    D) Anything at all that I missed any suggestions or spots I should watch out for along the way?

    Thanks for any suggestions you all may have...I'm trying to get this thing off the ground in the next week or so wish the yeast luck on their journey...
     
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If money were no object I would make a batch with coconut water instead of water and then dryhop with several #s of toasted coconut

    Don't expect a lot of head retention when using coconut...and very hard to get enough of it's flavor in the beer
     
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  3. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    I was dead set on doing this, and heard from a friend that tried it that the control fermented coconut water and his beer (coconut water as mash & sparge water in his case) tasted unpleasant. Because I don't trust anyone I will try it myself one of these days....
     
  4. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I just had a flashback to this year's Night of the Living Ales where I had a Goose Island Kentucky Bourbon Rye Stout with Coconut. Insaaaaaanely delicious beer! (though I thought they were just a tad heavy handed with the coconut)

    The fresh coconut flavor was outstanding! If someone knows how it was used in this beer, perhaps they could share that info.
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, might have to actually take a ph reading for once...hard to believe coconut water could have that much affect, but possible I suppose.

    Was the beer unpleasant or just the mash/sparge water?
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'm interested...if coconut can come through with those other flavors...I'm impressed
     
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Most coconut flavor I ever got into a beer was using a toasted coconut that was really sweet...maybe due to the low attenuating yeast in the base beer??? So sweet, I actually hit it with another yeast later to make it drinkable.
     
  8. Cabbage_pants1

    Cabbage_pants1 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Indiana

    I feel like I am scared by over intense flavors in beer more often than not a tincture is used and while not a necessarily a bad thing I am still fully surprised by how often they are used as opposed to genuinely using fresh ingredients...but they are delicious and have their place, and as long as it is a true tincture there should be no problem at all... It's the creepy chemical additions that make me nervous... It feels sometimes like beer is on its way toward vanilla diet coke...
     
  9. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    The beer. It just was off. Could totally have been the pH, now I wish I tested it.

    When I try a 1 gallon batch in the future I'll let you know how mine turns out.
     
  10. Peter_Wolfe

    Peter_Wolfe Initiate (0) Jul 5, 2013 Oregon


    Hey Cabbage_pants,

    A) That's quite a bit. A friend of mine made a coconut porter that was really good using 1 lb. of shredded coconut (that he toasted himself in his oven). The coconut flavor was pretty strong. If you want it to be subtle, maybe go with 1/2 lb. (I've done a 1/2 lb. addition to a milk stout and I quite liked it). If you want it strong, go with 1 lb; 3 lbs. is probably overkill.

    B) I wouldn't use it in the boil. I would put it in your secondary and transfer onto it. Give it 3 days or so then rack off of it.

    C) Yes, they will ruin the head. They won't do much to the body, but you'll have little to no head retention unless you use nitrogen, and even then it will be less than otherwise.

    D) Be careful if you toast it not to scorch it at all; those flavors are not good in beer. A light toasting does improve the flavor (and flavor transfer potential) however.
     
  11. Cabbage_pants1

    Cabbage_pants1 Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Indiana

    Yes! Thanks for the advice! I'm going to play around with it a bit I think I'm going to go give this thing a whirl!
     
  12. bigk84

    bigk84 Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2011 Michigan

    I've used toasted coconut at flame-out, kill the heat, tossed in a pound and chilled it down. worked pretty well.
     
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