Code of Conduct question: muling

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  1. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana

    One of the things listed in the Code of Conduct is you cannot offer to mule. Does this apply to beer releases via lottery where the brewery allows proxy pickups? I have done a lot of proxy work for people who have won the Upland sour lotteries and would like clarification if I can offer to be a proxy in the appropriate thread for the Upland sour releases?
     
    #1 fredmugs, Sep 21, 2015
  2. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    It applies across the board, and has always been part of the beer trading rules. Many are tired of release threads turning into people trying to make some form of deal in them vs. discussing the actual release.
     
    #2 Todd, Sep 21, 2015
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  3. Prospero

    Prospero Pooh-Bah (2,680) Jul 27, 2010 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    IMO, Proxy is different than muling.

    Proxy is someone else picking up someone's allocated beer for them. Muling is making an arrangement for someone to go get beer that IS NOT allocated for you.

    Proxying for someone should be acceptable, no idea why it wouldn't be (if abiding by brewery terms).

    Muling is extremely frowned upon, for what should be obvious reasons, but I don't want to start a debate on it.
     
    #3 Prospero, Sep 21, 2015
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  4. Janeinma

    Janeinma Initiate (0) May 24, 2009 Massachusetts

    I wish there was an official place for this and trustees that could allow feedback to be given just like trading. I needed a trustee for tired hands (and fast) and lucked into a deal. But he has my gift card and I have to just trust it will all work out. Yes I send him free beer but it isnt a pay situation. A feedback system could help people not to get ripped off.
     
    #4 Janeinma, Oct 4, 2015
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  5. nmyers462000

    nmyers462000 Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2013 Florida

    I tend to agree here. Though I can imagine this would likely be low on the prioritization list, it would be cool to know that this is something that may be developed someday.
     
    #5 nmyers462000, Oct 4, 2015
  6. F2brewers

    F2brewers Maven (1,432) Mar 12, 2005 Massachusetts
    Society Trader

    this is among the reasons why it's not permitted.

    feedback won't help this and we're not interested in entertaining this kind of activity.
     
    #6 F2brewers, Oct 5, 2015
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