Coffee Beer Adjustment Help

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  1. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    freshly tapped extract coffee ale. I am not sure if it’s a brown, porter or what. Got some LME from a friend and went from there

    3.3 lbs dark LME
    3.3 lbs Amber LME
    2 lbs light DME
    1 lb lactose
    3 oz steeped chocolate malt
    3 oz steeped roasted barley
    2 oz coffee beans dry beaned

    The beer is pretty good. No off flavors but seems to be missing something. To me seems like it’s missing some roast or a more bold coffee flavor. Flavor is pretty mild and sweet. Also pretty easy drinking.

    Friend tried the beer who drinks decent beer but not a critical beer drinker. He Thought it had a lot of coffee flavor and said it was good because it wasn’t really heavy.

    I am trying to decided if I should add some more coffee to increase the coffee flavor. To me it doesn’t have enough coffee flavor but I am a big coffee drinker who drinks freshly ground coffee in a French press daily. If the beer is already kegged and carbed what is the best process? I was thinking of adding 1 oz of coffee grounds cold brewed. But also thinking that adding some roast might make it better to balance out the sweetness. Could I brew some concentrated French press coffee to add more coffee and roast character?

    Ever add coffee to a kegged and carbed beer?
     
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  2. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
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    Yes, it works. A local commercial brewer, FKB, told me they do this all the time. (I've done it once). You can even go to Starbucks and buy cold-pressed coffee . . . target about 12 ounces for 5 gal keg. I wouldn't add coffee grounds 'cause they look gross (to me). Then again if you aren't a big coffee drinker just leave it along.
     
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  3. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    never added coffee to a carbed beer. If this is a 5 gallon batch, I d up the roasted barley to a lb,
    add freshly cracked, not ground beans to the secondary of a bold loud coffee for 5-7 days then bottle/keg to up the roast/coffee taste.

    you did not mention hops. in my coffee stout ill add 3 oz of goldings at 60 and 2 oz of fuggles.

    Mash temp no more than 150. should help with the sweetness
     
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  4. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    You don’t even have to crack them. Whole beans work fine. I’ve never added to a carbed beer, but shouldn’t be a problem.
     
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  5. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    Use a dark roast. I personally love espresso roast in my stouts.
     
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  6. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Thanks for the replies. I ended up using a bold coffee roast from humbolt bay coffee. I did a concentrated hot steep with my French press. The beer originally didn’t have the bold coffee or roast Flavor i wanted so thought a hot steep versus a cold brew might add that extra layer of flavor. I have had a few pours tonight and will say it is much better! Really enjoying the beer. It’s a perfect night cap but also easy drinking that I can have it anytime and at over 7% it can be dangerous.

    Cheers
     
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  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Sometimes with dark and amber extracts, there is uncertainty in how much color comes from roasted malts vs. crystal malts. This may underlie your perceptions of a beer that is a little sweet. Lactose isn't really helping.

    I recently made a session strength stout. Grain bill was comparable to an oatmeal stout, just session strength. I decided to add coffee to a recent pint. Not bad. Maybe just add coffee one beer at a time?
     
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  8. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I didn’t put enough specialty grains or coffee bean to balance out the extract which turned out to be lighter than I anticipated. I did want some sweetness as I was trying to brew a coffee milk stout. However, I didn’t have enough coffee flavor or roast to balance out the lighter sweeter malt character and the lactose. I added crushed coffee beans after primary fermentation was complete but either I didn’t put enough in, didn’t let it sit long enough or didn’t have a bold enough coffee flavor.

    With the second addition I am get more of the coffee flavor I wanted but also some sweetness too, but more balanced.
     
  9. ECCS

    ECCS Pundit (755) Oct 28, 2015 Illinois

    Quick coffee question: if I cold brew coffee overnight, should the coffee be boiled (after the grounds are strained out) to sanitize it before adding it to the keg?
     
  10. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    I’ve done it a few times without boiling it with no issues.
     
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  11. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    Same here, also have cracked coffe beans and thrown them in with very good results.

    Also, on the last coffee beer, dumped in 2 Kurig containers into the secondary with good results again.

    Lots of options.
     
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  12. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Most people don’t have issues, but because I don’t feel like taking any chances, the few times I have used cold-brew coffee I have done a low temp pasteurization. Raised the temp slightly (say, 160F for 15 seconds is all that is needed for example). Then it goes right into the keg before I rack the beer into it.

    My coffee beers have had wonderful, so it’s cheap insurance for me.
     
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  13. deadwolfbones

    deadwolfbones Pundit (795) Jun 21, 2014 Oregon

    I definitely wouldn't add beans or grounds to a carbed beer (that's a lot of nucleation sites). Might be a better time to use cold brew concentrate.
     
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