Coffee Beer Popularity

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  1. doppletheGOAT

    doppletheGOAT Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2012 Texas

    You must have a really great palate because I can't detect the staleness in coffee beers even though I am aware that it's there. The malts and hops seems to hide this fact really well and if the malts and hops don't hide this then it's not a good coffee beer. As for why are coffee beers rated so high.... I think it's kind of "geek thing". People are starting to really cozy up to coffee beers and as a result, you get very high rated ones on websites like ba.com and rb.com.

    There are some coffee infused beers that I think are outstanding but it's really hard to beat that natural coffee taste you get from the malts only. Like for example.. Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout has one of the greatest coffee flavors you can get in a beer from just the malts only. If you shop around, you can find some really great "coffee beers" that don't actually have coffee in them...
     
    #21 doppletheGOAT, Mar 23, 2015
  2. doppletheGOAT

    doppletheGOAT Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2012 Texas


    Yeah, one other thing, why do you think roast level should be minimal? Some of the best coffees I've ever had were dark roasted coffees.
     
    #22 doppletheGOAT, Mar 23, 2015
  3. Satchboogie

    Satchboogie Initiate (0) Oct 16, 2010 Belgium
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    I agree to an extent. I agree with everything you said about coffee, but I do think that some coffee beers actually do have a good coffee flavor. Most (overwhelmingly) do tasy stale and sometimes quite offensive, but occasionally it actually works (tree house good morning, big bad baptist, etc). The best coffee beer I have had was of course with actual fresh coffee beans... DFH Indian brown randalled with coffee beans from Diesel cafe in Boston at the EBF pre-fest Throwdown. That really is the only way to completely avoid staleness
     
    #23 Satchboogie, Mar 23, 2015
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  4. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    Minimal for that bean, sometimes that means dark. Indonesian and South American Coffees are often roasted dark, lighter is ok when really getting to know the bean, but darker kills the bean.

    I like the coffee flavours you can get from malts more than when coffee is added as well. You get more of the coffee acidity that way, not just the bitterness and "used coffee grounds" character.
     
    #24 AugustusRex, Mar 23, 2015
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  5. AugustusRex

    AugustusRex Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2013 Canada (ON)

    Or drop a shot of espresso into a glass of Ten Fiddy or Bells Expedition!
     
    #25 AugustusRex, Mar 23, 2015
  6. tylerstravis

    tylerstravis Pooh-Bah (2,487) Feb 14, 2014 Colorado
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    I'll be the first to sign up for CoffeeAdvocate!
     
    #26 tylerstravis, Mar 23, 2015
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  7. iTunesUpdates

    iTunesUpdates Initiate (0) May 7, 2014 Florida

    Probably already stated but the reason coffee stouts are good for the beer drinkers is because we're not Coffee perfectionist like you seem to be. I think they taste amazing and have no taste of stale flavors. These may not pass by devout coffee drinkers, so it's a good thing we're all beer drinkers!
     
    #27 iTunesUpdates, Mar 23, 2015
  8. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Hey! You got coffee in my stout!
    Hey! You got stout in my coffee!

    It's two great tastes that taste great together!
     
    #28 Tripel_Threat, Mar 23, 2015
  9. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    I just had a discussion about this with my wife over some beer sample paddles yesterday. I do enjoy coffee stouts, but I really struggle to rate them as high as most here, and I attribute that to being fairly picky when it comes to my home brewed coffee. I enjoy coffee and chocolate on the same level when they play a secondary or tertiary role and allow the base beer bask in the glory of being the lead.
     
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  10. Keene

    Keene Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2009 Washington

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