Coffee Cream Ale

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  1. TJRoar

    TJRoar Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2012 Connecticut

    My buddy and I are trying to make a cream ale with coffee added. We loved regular coffee from carton and not that we would be able to replicate it but we sure want to try. I have not found a recipe yet but was wondering if anyone had one with good results.

    Cheers,

    Tim
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The first thing is to get really top quality coffee beans. Dry bean in the fermenter. How much, I don't know, but I liked the ones I have tasted.
     
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  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Do a simple cream ale, and then dry bean it. Grab coffee you like, crush it coarse, or even use whole beans, and plan for 12-48 hours with roughly 2-3 ounces per 5 gallons.

    Taste as you go, and then package it.
     
  4. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Not sure I like where this is headed. Genesee Cream Ale - the gold standard, IMO - is an absolutely lovely beer! And the only $12.99 30-pack that I buy with some regularity. I'm not sure why you would want to destroy an obscenely clean flavor with coffee. Nothing wrong with coffee in beer, but, at the risk of sounding cliché, I'd save it for a Stout or a Porter where the coffee will add yet another layer onto an already complex flavor profile. There's really noting in a Cream Ale to balance against the coffee. It would be too one-dimensional, IMO.

    Just my $0.02

    That said, if you're determined to do this, I'd follow Fatc1ty's advice.
     
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  5. TJRoar

    TJRoar Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2012 Connecticut

    Was trying to recreate regular coffee but I only am doing extract.

    Currently have:

    12lbs pilsen liquid extract
    3lbs Golden DME
    3lbs Flaked Oats
    .50 oz Simcoe @ 60mins (it is what I have extra and I love it for bittering)
    .75 oz Galaxy @ 5mins

    Then tossing in some good coarse fresh ground coffee in a secondary fermenting and taste till I think it is good to go.
     
  6. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    What size batch is this for?
     
  7. TJRoar

    TJRoar Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2012 Connecticut

    Oh sorry 5 Gallons bottled is the goal.
     
  8. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

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  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'm kind of having a hard time wrapping my head around the grainy corny flavor of a cream ale too. *Homework* I must dry bean a bottle of Little Kings soon.
     
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  11. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    This is a lot of malt for a 5 gallon batch. I'd recommend googling "5 gallon extract cream ale recipe" and going from there
     
  12. fastenoughforphish

    fastenoughforphish Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2012 Illinois

    Hmmmm I don't think people are understanding that you are going after a imperial cream ale with coffee based on a actual beer.

    Carton uses dextrose and lactose in theres, so I would think including one or both for sweetness to balance out the coffee. There's is 12 Abv so I would aim high, maybe not this high but a higher og. I would recommend use cold press for coffee as I think it's what carton does. They've said they are almost actually going for a stale coffee taste and want it's present but not overbearing (I could be wrong on the cold press though...)
     
  13. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    It's still a lot of malt. We're looking at an OG north of 1.120. A 12% beer would need to finish at like 1.045 or higher depending on the efficiency with the oats.
     
  14. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I do a White Stout that could also be called a coffee cream ale...40% MO + 40% 2 Row + 8% flaked oats + 8% white wheat + 4% C-10...I then hop with Galena and Glacier like a typical stout and I use a good bit of cacao nibs and vanilla bean tincture in the secondary for around 10 days and add about 2-3 oz of coffee beans, cold pressed, at kegging. Most who taste it absolutely love it, although it was disqualified at a competition for not being a true stout, the judges came up and complimented me on it afterwards and told me to enter it as a cream ale next time and it would most likely place in the competition.
     
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  15. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    If you're doing it extract, then sub the 2 row for extra light DME and then do a mini mash of the Marris Otter and other grains...I don't think it would taste nearly as good if it didn't have the MO in it.
     
  16. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Regular coffee is an awesome beer. Had it at extreme beer fest and went back for third and fourths. My memory is pretty foggy but I would think you want to keep your FG as low as possible. As stated above, going to need to add lactose at bottling/kegging. Good luck and let us know what you come up with.
     
  17. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Nothing to add to the coffee part, but don't steep 3# of flaked oats, you need to do a mini-mash
     
  18. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    remember that there is really no cream quality in a cream ale. very little character in a cream ale seems to sit well with coffee in my estimation.
    but the name Coffee Cream Ale works. who knows, this might be a good idea, and I don't want to discourage you. just not sure it will turn out like planned.
    Cheers.
     
  19. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    I've had coffee in a lighter beer - http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/22564/97432/. It works, but I think it would be easy to add too much coffee. I would imagine a little coffee would go a long way in a lighter colored beer, as opposed to a stout or Porter. Just a thought.
     
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