Coffee Stout Poll

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by mnstorm99, Aug 20, 2013.

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What process and how much coffee should I use?

Poll closed Aug 25, 2013.
  1. Cold Press/2 ounces

    33.3%
  2. Cold Press/other amount (specify with reply)

    4.2%
  3. Dry Beaning/2 ounces

    16.7%
  4. Dry Beaning/other amount (specify with reply)

    29.2%
  5. Other (specify with reply)

    16.7%
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  1. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    So I am brewing a stout, to be split up between half on bourbon soaked oak and the other half with coffee. I haven't done a coffee stout in a while and failed to keep good notes in the past. While I know there are many different ways to do this, I wanted to see what the consensus would be. I have done both cracked beans in the secondary and cold press, which both worked well.
    Here are the beer stats:
    1.095 OG
    89% Pale Ale Malt
    5% Coffee Malt
    2% Roasted Barley
    2% Pale Chocolate Malt
    Chinook for bittering only to 55 IBU
    Alchemist Conan yeast

    So, what say you?
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  2. brownswisscow

    brownswisscow Crusader (476) Feb 9, 2012 Vermont

    Would personally cold brew and add to taste, hard to say what amount will be best until you've tasted the fermented base beer imo
     
  3. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    I should have clarified the quantity. Four ounces seems to be a general rule of thumb for a 5 gallon batch, I halved that for 2.5 gallons. I would think more would be needed in general for a high gravity beer, but wanted to see general responses on how much people think.
     
  4. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    Voted dry beaning >2 oz

    I get this weird pepper taste (green pepper, not hot pepper) in some coffee stouts (homebrew and commercial). Anybody else? Anyone know what type of coffee addition is used that gets this flavor?
     
  5. harrymel

    harrymel Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2010 Washington

    I usually do about 0-1oz at flame out. Then I add 1-4oz's depending on the beer/coffee as I move it to secondary. Sometimes it's a little too bitter, sometimes not bitter enough.
     
  6. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    My only coffee stout included 4 oz of coffee at flameout. It came out well enough, I was hoping for more coffee. Next time 4 oz at flameout, 2 oz dry bean.
     
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  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
    Society Pooh-Bah

    First and only one I did was six ounces cold steeped in a sanitized flask for 24 hours in about 1.25 quarts of water, then added to taste in secondary (although I wound up adding most of it). I filtered it with multiple layers of sanitized hop bag cloth when I decanted it into the secondary. Came out with about the right amount of coffee flavor, not too much, not too little.

    Coffee was three different roasts, medium to dark, 2 oz each, of non-flavored coffees.

    If I did this again, which I probably will at some point, I would do a similar procedure again.
     
  8. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2006 Iowa

    I like dry beaning as well amount varies for intended intensity.
     
  9. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    how big do you want the aroma? 0.5 oz / gallon dry beaned is strong but not coffee bomb. 1.0 oz / gallon dry beaned is coffee bomb heaven.

    Dry beaning cold (38-45 F) has worked better for me and has yielded smoother flavors without any off flavors. I feel cold press is insipid and further dilutes the beer, and prefer the flavor from dry beaning (cold pressing in your beer).

    From brewing lots of coffee, adding coffee at flameout would be my last choice as some aromatics may be scrubbed during fermentation, you'll get increased bitterness from the coffee if used on the hot side and the longer the coffee is exposed to heat the more off flavors it picks up.
     
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  10. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    Mostly agree, especially about the superiority of dry beaning, but flameout additions can also work if you have an immersion chiller. Drop the temp to 140-150F and then steep the bag of ground coffee for 3-4 minutes. You should still dry bean of course:grinning:
     
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  11. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    They talk about this on one of the cybi episodes (maybe the rogue Shakespeare stout episode). I believe jamil said he thinks often the green pepper flavor is due to highly roasted coffee bean varieties.
     
  12. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Never thought about that. While I do love my plate chiller, there are some things associated with immersion chiller, like this (and being able to do hop stands at 170 F) that I really miss.
     
  13. LostTraveler

    LostTraveler Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2011 Maine

    Second this, done basically the same thing with great success.
     
  14. FeDUBBELFIST

    FeDUBBELFIST Pooh-Bah (1,765) Oct 31, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I do 4oz of whole coffee beans for 48 hours and am always pleased with the results.
     
  15. TNGabe

    TNGabe Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2012 Tennessee

    Dry Bean, amount depends on the coffee that you use. If you don't roast your own, buy some good coffee from a roaster. If you find a good roaster, they should be able to match a coffee to your beer.

    Side note, interested to hear what Conan does with roast barley and chocolate malt.
     
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