Coffee Stout

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  1. Chaseguuy

    Chaseguuy Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2012 California

    Hey fellow Homebrewers, i recently brewed a coffee stout and after 2 weeks in primary and 1 week in secondary with oak chips i went from a SG of 1.060 to a FG of 1.020 using wlp007 dry english ale yeast. i bottled last night and tasted the portion that i used to test the final gravity and it seemed very sweet. is that the way it should taste before bottle conditioning for 2 to 4 weeks or did my yeast not get through the beer and left lots of sugar leaving the beer sweet????? Help me out folks im worried im gonna have a sweet stout and i got the wlp007 cause of the specific word DRY lol. Another note: i used a starter with this stout as well so to my eyes at least the pitch looked A OK.
     
  2. Tashbrew

    Tashbrew Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2007 California

    What was the make up of your wort? The yeast left behind a fair amount of sugar but I dount it was fermentable sugar. Extract, AG? How much specialty malt?
     
  3. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    1.020 seems a bit on the high side for a 1.060 beer, but, without a recipe and more detail, it's hard to say if something went wrong. The coffee will mitigate the sweetness, somewhat (most people wouldn't think of drinking coffee without adding sugar). How much coffee will you be adding and what technique will you use? (please say you didn't add it to the boil)
     
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  4. OddNotion

    OddNotion Pooh-Bah (1,915) Nov 1, 2009 New Jersey
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    Especially given that he used WLP007... I agree though, a grain bill and mash schedule will really help a lot here.

    Also, was the yeast old? Was the starter big enough? Fermentation temps?
     
  5. Chaseguuy

    Chaseguuy Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2012 California

    grain bill was 9lbs maris Otter, 2lbs Munich, 1.5lbs Roasted, 1.25 American Choc, 4oz Black pat. Mashed at around 152 for 60min boil was 60min as well with 3 hops additions at 60min 30, 10. fermentation was kept around 68deg F also for the coffee i did a cold seep for 24 hours about 2 cups and only added it to half of the batch just to try half regular stout and half with coffee and that was added to the bottling bucket not the secondary and DEFIANTLY not the boil LOL. the starter was about a quart idk man idk :astonished:
     
  6. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'd be more worried about bottle grenades...did you take multiple FG readings?

    You MIGHT be alright with that recipe.
     
  7. OldPenguinHunter

    OldPenguinHunter Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2010 California

    I usually don't have any issue with WLP007, but that is weird that your FG is 1.020, it should be closer to 1.014ish... Are you sure that you kept your fermentation temp at 68F or did it drop at any point, were there any sharp temp drops for more than 24hrs? The problem is, is that you already have bottled your beer... so now you kinda have to live with the beer. To be safe, I'd put the beers into a plastic bag, in case they start to blow up.
     
  8. Chaseguuy

    Chaseguuy Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2012 California

    help me people HELP
     
  9. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    This.

    If you already bottled, I'd go ahead and transfer those bottles into plastic containers NOW, then figure out what's going on with your beer. 1.020 seems high, and if you added priming sugar, that's ever more potential bottle bombage.
     
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'm not sure I would go to that extreme...I like to live dangerously : ), but at a minimum I would utilize a secondary containment device for the bottles (tub) and wear some OSHA goggles when approaching. he might be alright with that grainbill which looks like ~ 30% unfermentables . After they've carbed though, I would keep them just like a budweiser...ice cold.
     
  11. Groulxsome

    Groulxsome Zealot (723) Apr 9, 2010 Canada (ON)

    Wouldn't the chance of explosion vary depending on the amount of priming sugar used? I didn't think it's that unusual for a stout/porter to terminate around 5 and 6 plato (1.020 to 1.024). There is a Founders Porter recipe floating around on the internet where Jeremy Kosmicki (brewer at Founders) says that's around where it ought to terminate.

    If you've been conservative with whatever you're using for priming you really ought to be fine, at least as far as the explosion fears go. As for the sweetness, only time will truly tell!
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, there are a lot of unknowns, but I'd still be cautious condsidering the yeast used and the FG. Ravens +4 : )
    I know when I was bottling, I used 4oz of priming sugar for just about everything (erroniously).
     
  13. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'll throw in another vote for being concerned. pop a top after a week and see what it tastes like. Bubbles will give the beer a drier mouthfeel, so you have that to your advantage. I'd check at least twice a week thereafter to make sure you aren't overcarbing the beers. If it gets ugly, you're going to have to refridgerate the rest of your batch--Budweizer style :wink:
     
  14. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Without knowing the recipe it's really hard to say whether there's a risk of stout-flavored glass shrapnel in your future. That stout could easily terminate at 1.020 for normal reasons, e.g. use of extract (almost always contains maltodextrins), lots of flaked grains, etc.
     
  15. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    Recipe above.
     
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  16. reverseapachemaster

    reverseapachemaster Zealot (722) Sep 21, 2012 Texas

    Oops lol. Reading comprehension fail there.

    Ok so I plugged the recipe and if that's a five gallon recipe your OG should have been around 1.077 with a FG around 1.019. WLP007 attenuates 70-80% so that's the proper attenuation for the strain and your recipe. It seems like your OG reading was off. What was the temperature of the wort when you took that reading? Is your hydrometer calibrated?

    With a recipe with that high of an OG (1.077) you're not going to get a dry beer even using a strain with excellent attenuation capabilities.
     
  17. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    How many bottles do you have? Take a few extra, well maybe one and put it in s sanitized vessel. Take that second bottle that I spoke about and use it for a gravity reading. If it has carbonated you might have to degas it. Look for follow up comments on my methodology.

    Take first said bottle in sanitized container and throw in some yeast. Best scenario would be next time that you brew if you make a starter pour the suspect beer into flask and see if it ferments anymore. See where I'm going?

    You have some beer and you want to know if it fermented out all the way. Just test it. If 1.020 turns into 1.012m you might have a problem. 1,018.. maybe not.
     
  18. Chaseguuy

    Chaseguuy Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2012 California

    Thanks everyone, i just recently opened a bottle and it is extremely flat and very sweet. i think if anything it had to be fermentation temps. i was very surprised with the amount of carbonation aka ZERO and the residual sweetness better luck on the red ale fermenting at the moment i guess :astonished:
     
  19. OldPenguinHunter

    OldPenguinHunter Initiate (0) Oct 13, 2010 California

    So it's probably the unfermentables that are preventing the gravity drop?
     
  20. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Fermentation temp is largely irrelevant at carbonation time. All the fermentable sugars should be gone on bottling day. That's why we add priming sugar. How much priming sugar did you use? You said you bottled it last Wednesday. That was only six days ago -- what made you you think it would be ready today?
     
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