Cold crash vacume

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by corbmoster, Nov 30, 2015.

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  1. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Again, significance is subjective. But here's what I think about the examples you listed.

    Closed Xfer Systems: They are the tits, particularly for hoppy beers.
    Stir Plates: Probably no impact on quality of beer, assuming the non-stirplate starter is appropriately larger to compensate for less efficiency.
    Fermcap: I dunno. Never used it or felt the need to try it. I ferment in 6.5 gallon carboys (adequate headspace) and use a blowoff tube if I'm expecting blowoff. I don't think I've seen anyone claiming that fermcap improved homebrew quality though.
    Refractometers: I don't think I've seen anyone claiming that refractometers improved homebrew quality. They are very convenient though.
     
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  2. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Nope, Krusty tried a closed transfer once and couldn't tell the difference. Therefore, they have no benefit. :astonished:
     
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  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, good racking technique is definitely an important skill...are you closed xfering and/or using a spigot?
     
  4. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    If you could tell the difference, your initial racking technique probably sucked (no pun intended) :slight_smile:
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, that's what a lot of people say...but I haven't drank the Kool-Aid yet...just many delicious homebrewed IPAs :slight_smile:
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    My initial racking technique was the same as your current racking technique. :rolling_eyes:

    If you already have the gear, it really makes no sense to avoid doing a closed transfer. Is saving 25 cents on CO2 more important than preventing oxygen pickup?
     
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    No, however that is a false choice...plenty of fine homebrew (with minimal oxidation) was brewed before BYO wrote the article. I doubt anyone has controlled the myriad of other variables that might make contributed to a "better" beer. Besides I'm lazy and won't blindly chase every time-consuming homebrewing fad :slight_smile:
     
  8. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Professional brewers have been doing closed co2 transfers for a very long time. Think of all the money they could save on co2 if they realized it was a pointless fad.
     
  9. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Thank you graciously accepted!
     
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I thought you said CO2 was cheap? :slight_smile:
     
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  11. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    I really hope that isn't a serious comment.
     
  12. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah

    Thanks for the links, I think it is funny that there is a scientific "Journal of Cave and Karst Studies" :slight_smile:

    an awesome quote from the above article, I especially love the part I bolded :slight_smile:

    "If stratification really does occur, according to the meaning adopted by those who state that heavier gases accumulate in depressions, then we would live in a carbon dioxide atmosphere just a few meters above sea level, in oxygen at the top of
    mountains, in nitrogen above the mountains, and finally, in water vapor (and rain) in the stratosphere. The Dead Sea
    and the Caspian Sea would exist in pure radon atmospheres whereas hydrogen would be concentrated in the
    ionosphere (incidentally, where it actually is, but due to reasons other than stratification). This is an unrealistic
    scenario."


     
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  13. RashyGrillCook

    RashyGrillCook Initiate (0) Apr 30, 2011 Florida

    It's similar to those blatant warnings on things like "Don't throw these darts at other people's eyes". Should be obvious to most but someone out there is bound to read that and then go around telling people that the Dead Sea got its name from the layer of radon gas blanketing it.
     
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  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    No, the Dead Sea/Death Valley got their names from the brutal heat, harsh saline and alkaline environments. Radon gas will collect with an inversion of cold air underneath relatively warmer air above...and the air must be very still...no wind...kinda like carefully carrying a fermenter to a counter for racking :slight_smile:
     
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