Cold Weather Shipping - when don't do it isn't as option.

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  1. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Ok, I need to ship 20 cans of mixed Abrasive and Furious to my son who'd stationed in Watertown NY, where obviously temps are in and out of single digits and hitting lows in the negative range. It's been constant and the next 10 days look to be the same.

    Here's my plan with help and input from Mark.

    Wrap each can in newsprint followed up by a dense foam wrap. I'll add as much foam as the box will allow.

    I will double box to give more insulation space.

    I'm going to throw in those break and shake hand warmers you get in Walmart for hunting and fishing in cold weather. Might help for a bit never done this before.

    In between the boxes I'm going to use the spray foam insulation you get as Home Depot completely sealing the inner box into the outer.

    Any additional help or idea appreciated.
     
  2. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    You should knit cute tiny sweaters for them. :slight_smile:

    Seriously, if what you plan on doing isn't enough, the beers deserves the fate :slight_smile:
     
  3. DawgPhan

    DawgPhan Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2012 Georgia

    all of that is great and all, but likely wouldnt help. The most important thing would be check temps, ship first thing monday, and ship it as fast as you can.

    If it has to sit in an unheated truck/warehouse in low temps over night it is going to get very cold.
     
  4. Dan_Inreallife

    Dan_Inreallife Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2012 Colorado

    Reading this makes me think back on the 5 years I was stationed at Drum... terrible, awful, miserable cold! Watertown winters are 9+ months of that shit so you aren't likely to find a good gap in there. The double wall/box will definitely help, but you still want to avoid letting that box sit over a weekend so like suggested, ship on a Monday and send it as fast as you can. Also, make sure your son has the tracking info so he can be there to sign for it/bring it inside so it doesn't sit on the stoop.
     
  5. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    My sons AF attached to the aviation guys he does their weather funny enough. He loves Drum , I couldn't take the snow and cold forever it would be depressing, but the cold there it really at a ridiculous level. His wife is home so it won't sit, I'm hoping it's a 2 day ship like Albany and not 3. Air would be ridiculous on a big box.
     
  6. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    I was wondering the same thing. Only im doing MA-->WA. Blizzard hitting Monday night-Wednesday morning. Shalt I just wait for next week?
     
  7. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    Yes. This week is insane.

    So, while I'm generally not a fan of shipping USPS... I'm curious if you can fit 20 cans into a large Priority Flat Rate box. Just going for speed might be your best strategy in this case.
     
  8. ResIpsaLoquitur

    ResIpsaLoquitur Initiate (0) Feb 28, 2010 New York
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    16 oz cans no way. 12 can is the most I've been able to fit into the large box.

    For some reason though I remember being able to.fit 16 cans into the medium rectangular box, which seems weird but that's the way I remember it.

    Although shipping two usps boxes flat rate probably isn't much more expensive than shipping 20 cans through fed ex given the weight
     
  9. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Another idea is to put near boiling water (test it out a couple times to be sure you won't have an explosion) into a water bottle (dasani or something with a "full size" cap) might also be an idea. Like the hand warmers, you're really just looking for anything you can do to keep heat energy in the box.

    full disclosure: I've never tried this, I'm just thinking outside the box for a way to incorporate more heat energy into the interior of the box.
     
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  10. brother_rebus

    brother_rebus Pooh-Bah (2,512) Jul 28, 2014 Maine
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    I think going from a warmer area-->colder area or warmer-->cold-->warmer, the handwarmer or water idea would be a waste. They would only last a few hrs. But, going colder-->warmer would work.

    Secondly the hotnwater may be a bit expensive weight wise.
     
  11. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Less expensive than faster shipping speed, though that is a good point.

    As to it being a waste, you're right that after a few hours the water will be cold, but it's more about the total amount of heat energy inside the box compared to the total amount that will be lost in the journey; the more you start with the more you have to lose before freezing occurs.
     
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