Complaining about Prices

Discussion in 'New England' started by meefmoff, Mar 29, 2019.

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  1. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Given how much we pay to drink out here in the Boston area, I thought it might be fun to just have a venting thread about things that seem to cross the line into ridiculousness.

    Exhibit 1. Went to Brewer's Fork last weekend and was astounded to see a DIPA from Finback listed at $12 for 10 ounces. Get a grip. Somehow Mahr's brewery was able to send a kellerbier over from Germany for only $9 a half liter. Delicious.

    Exhibit 2. I really don't want this to bleed into general bellyaching about Trillium, but went to Elm Street Taproom last night and was not pleased to see that their two Trillium single IPAs were $9.50 for 12 ounces*. Maybe that's normal but I don't go to bars that have them on draft often. I sucked it up since I haven't had Trillium in ages and was curious to have a data point given all the recent hubub. Eh. It was decent enough but nothing I'd pay that much for again. Honestly it didn't feel particularly special at any price. My next beer was a 16 ounce Fiddlehead for $7.50 that I enjoyed more.

    What's grinding your gears?

    * I don't remember what it was called, but it was something relatively new (e.g. not a street) and the bartender said it was all citra.
     
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  2. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    I have two young kids and we don’t make it out much, but not too long ago (more than six months ago, but less than a year), we were at a bar with friends and the prices were all pretty high. Higher than I remembered. Everything was in the $8-10 range for a pint — and a lot more hazy IPA than I recalled.

    And I remembered why I spent my money of 12-packs of Notch Session Pils and 15-packs of House Lager.
     
  3. EnronCFO

    EnronCFO Pooh-Bah (2,193) Mar 29, 2007 Massachusetts
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    My biggest gripes come from brewery taprooms. Drinking at the source should be less expensive than at a bar/restaurant. But it rarely is. A lot of offenders here, but Mystic charging $8+ for 10 Oz pours of ipa pisses me off.
     
  4. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I have no idea what you’re talking about. :wink:

    If I had to guess it was Moon Island.

    The price at Elm Street is normal for Davis Square. Pretty much most of Somerville/Cambridge.

    Trillium prices are better over in the Allston area. Publick House (Brookline I know) would give you a full pint of that Trillium, not 12 oz.

    If you had ordered something like Dialed In or a DDH whatever from Trillium it would likely be $12 for 10 oz. at Five Horses/Elm Street.

    But it’s expensive most places for craft. I go out often around here but I only do it once a week. And I would guess I’m easily spending $50 - $100, if not more (not counting Ubers. The chopper is in the shop at the moment :wink:).

    And as @EnronCFO said, it doesn’t matter if I’m going to bars or breweries. Although today I’m going to CBC, they’re always priced right.
     
  5. BRoweski30

    BRoweski30 Devotee (371) Sep 10, 2016 Massachusetts
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    Agreed entirely about the brewery prices for drafts getting ridiculous. Jack's Abby does it right. Always a plethora of options in short or tall pours with the talls being well under $10. It is such a great taproom experience.
     
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  6. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I've been watching my most proximate packy acquire new brands and now the coolers seem dominated by $16 four packs. Just a few years ago I was trying new stuff as I found it, but $13 six packs were the standard then. Given current pricing, I'm now far more likely to reach for affordability over novelty.

    I'm told the market's awash in new NEIPAs of middling quality. I'm pleased someone told me, because I couldn't afford to find that out firsthand.
     
  7. Rysk22

    Rysk22 Savant (1,240) Nov 12, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Beer is becoming a luxury food item for a lot of people and breweries are learning that consumers are willing to shell out surprising amounts for it (looking at you, Hill Farmstead). These new taprooms and farms ain’t coming cheap. Fortunately the Jacks Abby’s of the world will keep prices reasonable, but for the hype styles, top dollar is the new norm.
     
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  8. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, I agree that that price for Trillium doesn't actually cross the ridiculous line (unfortunately). I guess it's more that I was surprised they were still priced the way they were before all the expansion. I suppose economies of scale don't apply when your customers are still willing to pay whatever you charge.

    And I *almost* included a dig at you in the original post. Thanks for calling yourself out :wink:

    ETA: oh, and I believe you're correct that it was Moon Island.
     
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  9. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Very much agree. One thing I have to hand to Lord Hobo is that their brewery tap prices do feel like you're getting that hometown discount.
     
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  10. DrinkingThe413

    DrinkingThe413 Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2019 Massachusetts

    Y'all are just living in the wrong end of the state. Come to Western Mass. Even high end local beers at most bars (excluding certain places in downtown Northampton) run $5-7. I was drinking Sam Adam's NEIPA 16oz for $5 last night, Cambridge Brewing Co. Amber 16oz for $5 the the other night, Wormtown Be Hoppy 16oz for $3.75 Thursday, Berkshire Brewing's new NEIPA (amazing btw) 16oz for $5.50 last Sunday....all of those at different establishments.
     
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  11. Michaelpro824

    Michaelpro824 Zealot (524) Nov 27, 2015 New York
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    Just here for the requisite ‘no one is making you buy it’ and ‘plenty of other reasonably priced options’

    Carry on though
     
  12. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    Agree with most of what’s been said, & sadly noticing the $7.50 - $8 regular pint becoming normalized even in the far Boston suburbs.

    A good solution would be for the MA legislature to get off their asses & repeal ridiculous Dukakis-era Happy Hour bans. Though it’s unfortunate the MA Restaurant Association lobbyists will fight for the status quo on behalf of the same places charging ludicrous margins.
     
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  13. oldbean

    oldbean Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2005 Massachusetts

    Could you look at, like, Wicked Weed or someone? There's so many worse offenders.
     
  14. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    What I find interesting is that I get why beers like Barrel Aged Farmhouse Pale Ale or Coolship or something of that ilk is expensive. They kind of are luxury items, and I’ll gladly pay when the time is right.

    I don’t consider even the most well-made hop-forward beers “luxury” items yet they’re priced ridiculously high. They’re priced that way because people will buy them. I can’t help but have the feeling that some of these places are laughing their way to the bank (or farm).
     
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  15. juliolugo

    juliolugo Zealot (640) Jun 22, 2015 Massachusetts

    What also perplexes me about Mystic’s pricing is how those $8 10oz pours are $3 for 4oz tasters. Shouldn’t the price per oz be higher for the tasters than the full pours? Been tempted to just order 3 tasters and ask for an empty glass. I’d rather have a $9 12oz pour than an $8 10oz pour.
     
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  16. brewme

    brewme Grand Pooh-Bah (4,014) Mar 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    What is the Berkshire brewing NEIPA called?

    I balance my affinity for expensive beer, by only dating cheap women.
     
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  17. DrinkingThe413

    DrinkingThe413 Initiate (0) Jan 29, 2019 Massachusetts

    It's called Easy Like NEIPA. Incredibly well made. They've been kegging it for the past couple of months for restaurants and bars but plan on canning it in April. Definitely look out for it.
     
  18. cmoney13

    cmoney13 Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2017 Massachusetts

    JA has been my favorite taproom for some time, in part due to the prices. Great food and unassuming atmosphere help a lot too.

    Medusa also does it right. Most pints in the $5-6 range for anything under 8ish%, and a 0.5L pastbier for $5!

    Though it doesn't surprise me these places charge more if they are routinely busy. What reason does Mystic have to charge less?
     
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  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Regarding the expansion, are you referring to Elm Street or Trillium?

    Because those prices aren't really unique to Trillium, I think I bought a $12 pour of something from River Styx at Five Horses last weekend.

    I think you can only order two tasters at once.

    I think location probably plays a part here. Might be why Lord Hobo, Jack's Abby, and Medusa are cheaper than Mystic.
     
  20. mrmattosgood

    mrmattosgood Maven (1,301) Nov 6, 2010 Canada (BC)

    Preaching to the choir man. I went to school out there, would move back in a second (if San Diego was off the table). Consolation is that I’m closer to Portland.
     
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