Concord stainless pots

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by CDennyRun, Dec 6, 2014.

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  1. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    I've seen a few threads on the interwebs about these pots, and have heard some good, some bad reviews. Does anyone here have personal experience with these? I'm almost done building my brew stand, and will be buying kettles within the next week or so. The price on these is obviously way cheaper than any others on the market, and I'd love to save some cash! I'll probably be getting the 100qt (25 gallon). Sorry no link on this, my phone is being lame. Ha ha

    Also, on a totally unrelated note... How do you guys wash your hop bags? I've always just dumped whole leaf hops into the kettle, but want to get away from that due to the mess it leaves behind. The guy at my LHBS said to wash it with the rest of my clothes, but I don't really like that idea. Do you just use a non scented soap? Any thought on this would be great!

    Regards,

    Chris
     
  2. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    I have run hop bags through the wash, after cleaning out the crud (from hop pellets) by hand. As long as the rinse cycle is sufficient, I don't think there should be a problem.
     
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  4. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Awesome, thanks!
     
  5. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Hop bags? Why would they need anything else than a nice, long, soak in PBW or EZ Clean? I just soak mine in EZ Clean and rinse well. Done.
     
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  6. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Same here. I empty, and rinse them.. Will store them in my bucket of star san for no reason other than because it's there. They go in the boil. As long as they are clean, I don't do anything else with them.

    For the bags I use in the kegs when I keg dryhop, I'll soak them in PBW or oxyclean free, to remove the stains for the hops and beer. Rinse twice, soak in starsan, and ready to use.
     
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  7. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Awesome! Thanks guys!
     
  8. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    1mm is a pretty thin wall for such a large kettle. How big of batches are you planning on doing??
     
  9. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    i have never used that kettle. never even had the chance to see one.

    i can tell you this for certain. there is no magic bullet when it comes to making a kettle. these things are virtually all made the same in our world. this manufacturer does not have an inside line on stainless steel. nor do they have some proprietary way to make less material do more.

    there are two ways to make a kettle cheaper. one is to lower the cost of labor. two is to reduce the amount of materials. rest assured that many manufacturers are already using the cheapest labor available. eliminate all the bells and whistles and the labor is reduced even further. this pot has zero bells and whistles.

    so that leaves us with material. and this kettle obviously has very little. a glorified garbage can if you ask me. and the stainless is most certainly the lowest grade around. not to mention the thin gauge used. the thing is 20 pounds for heavens sake. compare that to a stainless keg, which 62 quarts and weighs 30 pounds. you get the idea.

    all that said, it may very well do the job for you.
    Cheers.
     
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  10. dbrese

    dbrese Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2011 Vermont

    I use Concord kettles. I bought them from spikebrewing.com with welded fittings for my three vessel all grain system. For comparison the Blichmann kettles are 1.2mm thick and the Concord kettles from Spike Brewing are the same (18ga = 1.2mm thick). The kettle you are looking to by is 19 gauge and probably will work fine if you treat it carefully. It is 20% less material. Don't expect there to be no difference in heat retention or conduction. You will get what you pay for when it comes to stainless steel. Buy once, cry once.
     
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  11. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Yeah, that all makes sense. Thanks for the insight guys! I think I'm going to spending the extra cash and get something with a tripple bottom, and thicker walls. I'd hate to buy three of them, and end up kicking myself!
     
  12. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    I'll probably do 10 gallon batches on a regular basis, but really want to be capable of at least a half barrel. My wife and I would love to eventually start a small brew pub/eatery, so having a 20 gallon capacity or more would be great. If I do partigyle, I could technically do full 1bbl batches with 20 gallon kettles. The more the merrier!
     
  13. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    why not just go with keggles for now and should you ever open a brewpub then you can invest in a couple large pots, doing 10gal batches in 25gal pots is a bit overkill IMO
     
  14. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Yeah, my mind works in funny ways.. Ha ha. I have my heart set on having at least a 1/2bbl capacity. 10gal is nice, but if it's only an extra $30 per, for 80qt kettles, I figure why not. But then when I'm shopping online, the 100qt kettles are only so much more, and ya know... I also like that 80qt kettles are only 16-20" tall, apposed to kegs (I designed my two tier brew stand for my short 5'9" body)
     
  15. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    I think you'll find that a quality pot that big is gonna cost you some major $$$$$$

    You might want to check ebay or craigslist for old milk cans or stainless barrels (55gal) which can be had for relatively cheap, its likely you would have to put in some elbow grease to make it look purdy though
     
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  16. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    That's something I haven't looked into, and a great suggestion! Thanks.

    I did find these, which look much better than the concord, have the tripple layer bottom, and slightly thicker walls.

    http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/supera/sp-80/p1516033.aspx
     
  17. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

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  18. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Nice! How well do they retain heat, like for a MT?
     
  19. CDennyRun

    CDennyRun Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2014 Washington

    Well I pulled the trigger, and got three 20 gallon pots from http://www.foodservicewarehouse.com/supera/sp-80/p1516033.aspx

    Word is they're pretty nice kettles, and I can't friggen wait for the next brew day! Weldless bulkheads are on the way, as well as stainless ball valves. I think I'll wait for individual thermometers with bulkheads, as I've just blown way too much money putting this all together. Ha ha! Thank god I have a wife that wants me to be happy!
     
  20. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    When using a stainless pot as a mash tun you will likely need to either insulate (not too hard; this is what I do) or periodically add heat from a burner (tricky) or set up a RIMS or HERMS system (don't ask me what these mean -- I do not really know, but I believe that at least one of these is for mash temperature control).
     
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