Constantly underrating beer?

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  1. szmnnl99

    szmnnl99 Pooh-Bah (2,028) Apr 3, 2006 Michigan
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    I think what you are forgetting is that BA's mostly buy above average beers. One of the worst beers I have bought in the past year is Fat Tire. Is Fat Tire a "bad beer""? No, in the big picture, it is an average beer; but I like better than average beers, so I don't buy them if I know/think they'll be average.
     
  2. Jmitchell3

    Jmitchell3 Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2013 Arizona

    i tend to start any new brew at 2.5. If there's anything I don't like, I downgrade it. If it is drinkable it moves to a 3. If I like it, but its not great, it gets a 3.5. If I love it and would drink it regularly, I give it 4. If it is outstanding, it moves up from there. I don't know that I have any styles that I don't prefer, but I do attempt to rank any beer in relation to similar beers in the same style.
     
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  3. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    Someone probably pointed this out by now but the BA rating scale is 1-5, not 0-5. If one thinks they are rating on a 0-5 scale but it's REALLY a 1-5 scale, then their ratings will skew low. Not sure if that's the case here but wanted to chime in just in case. Honestly, though, don't worry too much about it. Cheers!
     
  4. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    I've been on Untappd since 3/19/13 (160 days not counting today--it's still morning here) and I've logged 447 beers (282 unique) since then, none of them retroactively before that date. That comes out to 2.79375 beers per day. First I want to point out I'll rate anything I've had 4-5oz. or more of so places that offer flights make it easy to drive this number up (whether intentionally or not). Second, I think I've put on 20 pounds since then. Third, DAMN I need to start drinking less!!! :grimacing:
     
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  5. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    The last time I had Budweiser was before the site implemented Hads. The beer could not inspire 250 characters to tumble out of me, good or bad.
     
  6. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    Since you can't rate a beer below 1, the median should be 3, not 2.5.
     
  7. themind

    themind Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey

    You have never had a 5/5 beer in all categories? are you sure you like beer? :confused:
     
  8. themind

    themind Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey

    And "rare" beers or whales get higher scores because you cant get them.
     
  9. -Andrew-

    -Andrew- Maven (1,319) Jul 22, 2013 Michigan

    My problem is that my ratings are sometimes swayed by existing reviews. "I didn't like this one very much...but it's rated in the 90s...i'll give it a generous rating so people won't see my list and judge me", or conversely "Hey this was pretty good, I enjoyed it...wait, it's rated in the 40s...I'd better chop off a point or two".
     
  10. SoCalBeerIdiot

    SoCalBeerIdiot Pooh-Bah (2,191) Mar 10, 2013 California
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    I'm sure there's plenty of that going on. I think a lot of ratings like this, though (where the score is higher than the written notes might suggest), could be the result of people rating beers in styles they don't necessarily like. Most BAs can recognize when certain beers are great representations of their style even if they don't like that style.
     
  11. Dope

    Dope Pooh-Bah (2,925) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Interesting. I had the opposite going on when I started. Initially, lots of my reviews were +rDev. I'd say 75% or more. As time wore on, I started getting very close to the average score. Nowadays, I'd say 2/3 to 3/4 of my reviews are -rDev.

    I'm not sure what to attribute this to, maybe some amazing beers over the years have spoiled me for the lesser rated beers, dropping my overall scores on most? Or maybe it's because this year's Nugget Nectar isn't as hoppy as last year's or KBS doesn't have as much barrel character or something along those lines ( :wink: )

    Anyway, maybe your scores will change over time. I did find it interesting looking through your reviews, you have some fairly poor reviews for some beers which I would consider easy top 5s in their respective categories (lagunitas sucks, BCS coffee, sam smith oatmeal, union jack, daisy cutter, sumpin' sumpin', wookey jack, etc). Funny how palates work.

    Dope
     
  12. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Damn straight, although I don't know what a whale is.
     
  13. chinchill

    chinchill Grand Pooh-Bah (5,541) Feb 29, 2008 South Carolina
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    For one thing, people use rating scales differently, with some tending more towards the high or low side of scales.
    For another, BA recently anchored the 4 rating with "outstanding" which, I think, most raters would see as a higher standard than an unlabeled 4 on their 5-point scale.
    The recent addition of 1/4 point increments may have affected ratings too.
    Finally, I think high quality craft beers are more widely available than in years past, so that a really good beer that would be rated as, say, 4 in 2013 may have been so exceptional 7 or 8 years ago that it would tend to get 4.5 or even 5 then.
     
  14. -Andrew-

    -Andrew- Maven (1,319) Jul 22, 2013 Michigan

    It's that one beer you're always searching for. That you're fixating on getting a hold of. The term comes from Moby Dick.
     
  15. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    There is some serious grade inflation in this school. A lot of the teachers seem to be giving everybody high grades as long as they're still alive at the end of the class.
     
  16. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    I only review schwartzbiers.
     
  17. Hoppsbabo

    Hoppsbabo Pooh-Bah (2,053) Jan 29, 2012 England
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    Oh, thanks. I thought it meant something like a high gravity hop bomb. Well, I live in South Korea so pretty much any beer of distinction is a whale to me :-(
     
  18. Knifestyles

    Knifestyles Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2005 New York

  19. breakingbland

    breakingbland Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2013 Michigan

    I'm in the same boat. As a relative newcomer to this (18 months in craft brews and 6 months on BA), I sometimes think that I rate low because I am a newby. That is, I do not yet really know what constitutes a great or an awful beer, so I tend to avoid the extremes. I guess, as I get "better" at appreciating and rating beers, I may re-review or re-edit some of my previous reviews. In any case, BA serves as a log of what I've tried and what I like (but I still try to be conscientious & honest in my reviews).
     
  20. themind

    themind Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2011 New Jersey

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