Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Ok nice. I was gonna say there are a wide range of styles and a lot of bad beer out there. I've had a little over 800 different beers as well and only a handful have bee I drinkable, but I've definitely had a few I couldn't get down.

 

After drinking Half Acre Fazer, I now retract this statement.

 

Let me stand on your statement

A great pilsner is better than a great NEIPA every day of the week and twice on Sunday

 

Both of you guys are great BA's and I would love to sit down with both of you and discuss this further over multiple beers.

 

It was the first time I had had black note and I've always thought a lot of bell's, so I think I was disappointed because I expected it to measure up to those and to me it didn't. If I had tasted it independent of the others, I would probably have thought differently

 

Maybe not controversial, or perhaps blasphemy for some:

Went to Tree House recently, bought 2 cases. Traded or sold (at cost) 42 of those beers. Had to scratch my NEIPA itch but was quickly bored. I did legitimately enjoy Bright with Nelson.

Went out and bought 12 Alpenflo, 12 Summerfest and 12 Sunshine Pils. Much more content.

As @SammyJaxxxx states above...

 

Had my first drain pour today. This was at Super Natural Brewing and the beer was Sheep Shagger Scotch Ale. Call me a hypocrite as you will but this beer is not your usual beer. It did not taste like beer but rather smelled and tasted like cow shit or perhaps sheep shit based on the name. If a beer actually tastes like an animal's feces is in it then okay it's a drain pour. I guess I never thought a brewery would serve a beer that actually tastes like shit. Had a good waitress so I was able to swap it for something better but really blows my mind a beer could literally taste like cow shit.

 

Really, the majority of pilsners? Maybe pilsners are a booming high-level style in NY state at the local level, but I can only think of 3-4 local/regional/national US brewers making high level pilsners, and most have been around for a few years now (Prima, Pivo, the Crisp etc). Lots of brewers making them, few are beyond the usual bland/pedestrian level however.

I did a trip to VT in 2016, and I had several great pilsners up there (Foam, HF, Lost Nation to name a few, that I'd put in my favs. for the style), so maybe there are pockets of great pilsner making going on.

 

I dunno, maybe it's just my personal preference. I really like most pilsners I try, and I have at least top five favorites, maybe ten. NEIPAs are amazing if they're well done, but it seems like most of them that I try fall short of my expectations. I tend to notice a lot of flaws in the style, too, like yeast burn and astringency.

 

Too bad you live East of the Cascades: http://chuckanutbreweryandkitchen.com/

Their Kolsch is my personal favorite, but, the Pils is in the top 5 (prolly 3) of American brewed examples.

 

Is there any other kind of server at a diner? Especially in the morning?

 

We've covered drain pours ad nauseum here in the past (no pun intended) but my theory is... if there's something wrong with the beer, go ahead and down the drain. If there's nothing wrong with it, dumping it just to open something else, I have an issue with that. YMMV.
Personally, the only commercial beer I can remember dumping more than a sip or 2 is Crème Brulee Stout. Just too cloyingly sweet to drink more than a few ounces of. I've dumped a couple infected or otherwise off homebrews, stuff that was sitting on the shelf about 3 years too long...
that's about it.
Also, if you pass out with half a beer left, it's OK to dump when you wake up.

 

Well, with a name like Sheep Shagger wouldn't you have expected something nasty?

 

I feel sorry for the morning shift servers. Truly. That's a tough gig. Especially when a dude like me, who is NOT a morning person rolls in, and they just automatically give me coffee. Ugh!

 

I don't have a lot of cask experience, but I've gone to the big New England cask festival (NERAX) for the past two years and I agree completely. Darker American style beers were generally pretty forgiving in the cask (even if not improved), and there were some good American representations of traditional British styles (the only dark milds on tap were American, and even the Brits there thought they were both quite good). But the lighter, hoppier American styles were a big step down in my opinion, to the point where it just seemed like you were messing up a perfectly decent beer for no good reason.

I know it helps to have some flashy names/styles in the program, and more power to anyone who enjoyed them, but I have to say that taste wise I just completely did not see the point.

 

Yeah for sure. I think a lot of the hoppier American beers (especially the stronger and sweeter ones) need the carbonation to cut through the hops/sweetness. A triple dry hopped 10% NEIPA on cask makes me break out in a sweat

Would love to go to that festival! Have heard great things.

 

The names of beers are getting out of hand... looking at you Singlecut.

No one else seems to be bothered by it, but they drive me up a fuckin' wall.

 

I find something offensive about the yeast Lagunitas uses. I have had at least 10 varieties none of which I really enjoyed. This was before they were bought out by big beverage company(which the founder promised he would never do)

 

The trend of naming beers after hip hop lyrics has got to stop. I love hip hop too, which is a reason why I feel this way.

 

I'd say it's, if anything, even better than its reputation. It just exudes an aura of being excited about introducing people to cask beer without any kind of a "harrumph, why don't more people get it?" vibe. Plus there's a small ticket fee and then you just buy what you want - quarter, half, or full pours with more or less no lines and a huge selection.

I had such a good time the first year I volunteered this year and had an even better time. Definitely worth the trip depending on how far upstate in NY you are.

Hmm, that's probably not very controversial so I'll add this:

NE IPAs are following basically the same trajectory as WCIPAs, just at an accelerated pace and on a larger stage.