Controversial Beer Opinions Thread

Are you replacing the OP as the arbiter of how his thread "works"?
We might have just witnessed a BA coup de tat.

 

This thread. That thread. Every thread. You know me, I'm an equal opportunity know-it-all.

 

Controversial opinion. When I am at a taproom or brewery, I don't want to hear people yelling obscenities, or being overly loud and obnoxious. That doesn't mean you can't have fun, but bear in mind you don't own the place and if you are bothering other people you are reducing their enjoyment, perhaps at the expense of your own.

 

BT being considered a world class beer bar may be the most controversial thing you’ve said. Though depending on how long ago “a few years back” is, then maybe maybe you get a pass

 

6 or 8 years back. Pretty sure it was 8, but not 100%

 

One of my favorite restaurants, Dinosaur BBQ, used to have the following printed on the front of their menus: Have yourself a time, but don't impinge on others.

 

I think most Tree House stouts taste almost exactly the same, and while good, they aren't super great.

 

Aren’t most of their ipas basically the same as well.

 

I was with you until your last 2 sentences! I have found that well made homebrew is as good as (or better than) well done pub beer on cask, and especially better than most small "local" brewery beers, which, by and large suck mightily.

 

Wow, a Shaker joke!

 

It's not the brewing but the fact that I couldn't bring out the full flavours which only cask conditioning can bring about. It requires admission of air and I could not drink 40 Imperial pints quickly enough to prevent spoilage. So it went into a pressure vessel instead.

 

Why is that? A friend who does reviews says "it got too big", and someone else said it might have something to do with beer being cheaper, so targeting a different audience.

I think just being a very male-driven product could play a part. American male, specifically. You hear folk say, "Its beer!" when the topic of snobbery comes up, but possibly it could be a result of the two (common man's drink + elitism) combined.

Were things different twenty, thirty years ago?

 

I don't think it's either and as much as people don't like to hear this, I believe it to be the current generation that is in their 20s. Not to vilify an entire group of beer drinkers, but small, local craft beer has exploded just as they became of legal age so "their culture" is often transposed on "craft beer culture". That culture, from my vantage point, is full of attention whoring, self-absorbed douches.

I think it's faux elitism. Playing like it's something special when it is, in fact, just beer and it will never be considered a luxury item, like cigars, wine, or brown liquor.

I would say "yes", but probably not really. The percentage of douchebags in craft beer is probably about the same. It's just more visible in today's culture and there are WAY more breweries, so you get people pimping a lot more and a lot harder.

 

I mostly agree, with the exception that certain Belgian slow sours (think decade-plus-aged Cantillon) do indeed approach high-end wine-like market tendencies and behaviors. The perishability of most beers alone will prevent that sort of phenomenon, even if beer's historical status as the common man's drink did not. The craft beer industry largely substitutes artificial scarcity (intentionally low output and severely limited distribution) and queuing for high prices in order to satisfy the elitist desires of some of its customers.

 

I don't know if this is controversial or not, but I like the idea of lotteries for limited releases.

Yesterday, here in Ontario, Hill Farmstead killed the LCBO website. 240 bottles each of Anna, Arthur and Florence were to be made available for online purchase (limit 4 per beer) at 11:00 AM. At 11:00:08 AM, the website crashed, and the entire system was offline for most of the day. As of this morning, the problem has still not been entirely fixed and nobody seems to know how many bottles were sold, or what may be remaining to be purchased.

At least with a real life line-up, there is a chance to chat with others, and perhaps enjoy a beer or two. Getting people to 'line-up' online is recipe for disaster. Lotteries allow more people to get a chance to get bottles than either type of line-up, and produce less collateral damage to liquor monopolies.

...or, maybe the LCBO just needs to upgrade their systems from the current Commodore Vic 20s they are using... I don't know.



Remember July 23rd, 2018! The day Hill Farmstead killed the LCBO!

 

Although I understand the parallel that you're try to draw, I don't agree. There's still enough Cantillon and 3F to go around. They're certainly harder to come by, but they're not being completely bought out by investors like Grand Cru Bordeaux, nor are allotments being sold at auction for exorbitant prices.

Very much agreed with this, especially the last sentence.

 

Not really, people haven't changed.

 

the fuck they haven't!

 

we're all critics

 

some are cridics