Conversion Lbs all grain to lbs LDME or DME

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  1. Jduche17

    Jduche17 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2015 Canada (QC)

    Hi I wanted to recreate a recipe but i dont have the equipment for all grain yet and want to do this with extract and steep grains . here is the recipe . I was wondering what do i use as an extract and how much thank you . PS i am doing a 5 gallon batch and this is a 10G recipe so i will divide all mesurments
    thanks on your feed back

    Pale Ale

    Original Gravity: 1.056
    Terminal Gravity: 1.010
    Color: 5.9 SRM
    Alcohol: 6.0%
    Bitterness: 37 IBU

    Ingredients:
    15.5 lb Domestic 2-Row Malt (78.5%)
    3.5 lb Weyermann Vienna Malt (17.7%)
    0.75 lb Crystal Malt 40L (3.8%)
    1 oz Centennial Hops (9.2%) - added during boil, boiled 20 min [8 IBU]
    1 oz Amarillo Hops (8.2%) - added during boil, boiled 20 min [7.2 IBU]
    1 Whirlfloc Tablet (Irish moss) - added during boil, boiled 15 min
    2 oz Centennial Hops (9.2%) - added during boil, boiled 10 min [11.5 IBU]
    2 oz Amarillo Hops (8.2%) - added during boil, boiled 10 min [10.2 IBU]
    2 oz Centennial Hops (9.2%) - added during boil, boiled 0 min
    2 oz Amarillo Hops (8.2%) - added during boil, boiled 0 min
    24 g Fermentis Safale US-05 dry yeast
    2 oz Citra Hops (11.1%) - added dry to secondary fermenter
     
    #1 Jduche17, Feb 1, 2016
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You did not specify what type(s) of malt extract you intend to use but 7 lbs. of Extra Light Dried Malt Extract and 0.75 lbs of 40L crystal malt will achieve an OG of around 1.056 for a 5.5 gallon batch.

    Cheers!
     
    #2 JackHorzempa, Feb 1, 2016
  3. Jduche17

    Jduche17 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2015 Canada (QC)

    thanks cheers
     
    #3 Jduche17, Feb 1, 2016
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    There really is no way to duplicate the Vienna with extract or steeping grains, because Vienna is a base malt. You'd have to do a mini-mash (aka partial mash) with this malt.
     
    #4 VikeMan, Feb 1, 2016
  5. Jduche17

    Jduche17 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2015 Canada (QC)

    ok so if i do a mini mash , how do i go about it i have never tried to do that before , it seems simple but if i could get some advice that would be great . thanks again
     
    #5 Jduche17, Feb 2, 2016
  6. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    On the most basic level, mashing is just steeping with specific grains at a controlled temperature and water volume. That is an oversimplification, but for your example recipe (scaled down to 5 gal), if you "steep" the vienna/crystal in 3qts of water at 150-160 for 30-60 minutes, you're mashing. Things begin to get more complex when you aren't only mashing for flavor/color contributions.

    Also, if you google "DME to grain ratio" you will find plenty of charts/formulas to assist you in converting grain to extract.
     
    #6 cmmcdonn, Feb 2, 2016
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    IMO that is 90+% of the explanation.

    The only aspect that I would mention is that it is of importance to ensure that a proper mash pH is maintained while steep pH is not a concern.

    Cheers!
     
    #7 JackHorzempa, Feb 2, 2016
  8. CarolusP

    CarolusP Zealot (590) Oct 22, 2015 Minnesota

    It looks like you'd be mashing a little over 2 lbs of specialty grains. You could just use a large muslin bag or a paint strainer bag and steep them in the water at the proper mash temp.
     
    #8 CarolusP, Feb 2, 2016
  9. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    Obviously not exactly the same, but if he wants to skip a mini-mash he could sub in some Munich malt extract.
     
    #9 scottakelly, Feb 2, 2016
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  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I would think that using 3.15 lbs of Briess CBW Munich LME would approximate the Vienna Malt addition.

    Cheers!
     
    #10 JackHorzempa, Feb 2, 2016
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