Cork and cage

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JS70070, Nov 3, 2015.

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  1. JS70070

    JS70070 Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Tennessee

    Anyone every flown back with a cork and change bombe? I fly beer back and forth on business, but new a cork. Would the pressure cause this to leak?

    If this has been discussed, can you paste the link, I can't search for it on my phone.

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  2. JS70070

    JS70070 Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Tennessee

    And I can't edit to fix my spelling errors, maybe a few too many. But I hope you get the ask
     
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  3. StoutSnob40

    StoutSnob40 Poo-Bah (2,724) Jan 4, 2013 California
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    Well.. While I'm sure many people here have, don't you think corked and caged bottles get shipped from brewers in Europe to the U.S. by plane all the time?
     
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  4. mikefuski17

    mikefuski17 Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2013 Oregon

    I flew from SF to Philly a few years ago wit a bunch of Russian River stuff with no issues whatsoever. If you get nervous, take some duct tape.
     
  5. riverlen

    riverlen Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2009 Illinois

    Isn't the cork and cage more secure than a standard crimped cap?
     
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  6. JS70070

    JS70070 Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Tennessee

    I was told on a trip once to not fly back with one due to leakage. Good to hear others have had success. Thanks for all the responses
     
  7. RLLER

    RLLER Initiate (0) Feb 5, 2015 Florida

    I fly all over the US for work weekly and have checked bags with every bottle, crowler, growler you can think of. Its all in how you pack them. I wouldn't worry about the cork and cage at all. Most beer I have flown at once was 65 lbs of goodies from Portland to Miami. So dont worry and just pack well!

    Edit: I travel with bubble wrap. But if its just under 8 bottles? Wrapping with clothes is fine. Stick smaller bottles in your shoes.
     
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  8. JS70070

    JS70070 Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2012 Tennessee

    Thanks @RLLER - I user ziplock bags and bubble wrap, its usually only 6 to 8 bottles.
     
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  9. DoubleJ

    DoubleJ Poo-Bah (5,814) Oct 13, 2007 Wisconsin
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    Over the years, I have been able to safety transport 750 ml corked and caged bottles of Temptation, Gouden Carolus Easter, Cascade Apricot Ale, and many others, and that is between different continents!
     
  10. SFCraft

    SFCraft Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2014 California

    Flew from Brussels to San Francisco with plenty of corked & caged bottles in my suitcase. No problems.
     
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  11. dank203

    dank203 Devotee (497) May 21, 2012 New Jersey

    I think he meant cage bomber lol
     
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  12. donspublic

    donspublic Poo-Bah (1,993) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    I have only seen one true disaster on checking alcohol on the plane, was at a special area to pick up odd sized stuff and there were like 3 boxes of wine that had been heavily duck taped and they were beat to hell and back, soaked in red wine, made my eyes watered and the people that owned them were gobsmacked that they didn't survive the flight. I simply remarked "Duck tape is good for many things, protecting wine is not one of them". That earned me a nasty look. I think the baggage dudes took it as a challenge to see how well the duck tape could hold up.
     
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  13. captaincoffee

    captaincoffee Poo-Bah (1,779) Jul 10, 2011 Virginia
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    With enough duct tape, they should be able to make that entire case waterproof (wineproof). Its just a matter of making sure ALL the glass breaks and attaching a tap to the side of the case.
     
  14. tillmac62

    tillmac62 Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2013 South Carolina

    I would think the cork and cage would be more secure than the typical bottle cap.
     
  15. SaisonRichBiere

    SaisonRichBiere Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2011 Michigan

    I've never had an issue. I always ziploc them either way.
     
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  16. stickboy1125

    stickboy1125 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Virginia
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    Just flew back from CA with some RR sours, no issues for me. I put them in ziploc bags and a little duct tape over the cork just to be safe but probably not necessary.
     
  17. DVMin98

    DVMin98 Poo-Bah (3,581) Nov 1, 2010 North Carolina
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    I electrical tape the entire thing to the bottle...never had a problem
     
  18. R3ason

    R3ason Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Colorado

    Same here on the Brussels to US flight. You'll be fine.
     
  19. Cibsie

    Cibsie Initiate (175) Jan 10, 2015 Minnesota
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    Are cork cage beers VERY prone to infection, or do I just have really bad luck with them? I usually tend to avoid them, since most beers I'm interested in aren't in that format, so I've probably had about 7 in my lifetime. 6 of those 7 were infected to the point where they had to be drain poured. The only good one was BA Narwhal.
     
  20. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Disciple (345) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Yeah, typically when a store gets a case of 12, only one or two of them are drinkable. It used to shock me that they keep ordering and stocking C+C beers, but the world just keeps spinning, as they say.
     
  21. CayseyW

    CayseyW Zealot (516) Mar 7, 2013 Connecticut

    Is this sarcasm? I honestly don't think I've ever run into a problem with this... and I have had plenty of beers in this format.
     
  22. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Poo-Bah (1,812) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I have never heard of this from anyone. Ever. I constantly purchase CnC bottles with no issues. If I have been buying the one or two good beers from every case those are astronomical odds, and I am one unlucky sonofabitch. So I doubt it.
     
  23. Giantspace

    Giantspace Champion (848) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania


    WTF are you talking about? I can't say in my 30+ years of drinking I have had more than a few bad beers. One was a corked bottle of Chimay red over 20 years ago. It foamed out till nothing was left. I had a really bad bottle of JP bam that foamed out and Victory replaced a case of bad beer( they pulled the same date from their library) and confirmed it was a bad batch. That's about all I can remember.

    Enjoy
     
  24. lester619

    lester619 Initiate (0) Apr 17, 2009 Wisconsin

    I have heard that these beers can be more prone to infection, I have no idea what the numbers are or how true this is. It seems like if it was a major problem, someone would have come up with a way to fix it, or stop using the format all together. I will say there is no way it has a 10 out of 12 failure rate and is still being used. That's just absurd.
     
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  25. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania

    I don't think it was the cork and cage itself that was the problem.

    Over the last 6-7 years I've had multiple cases of cork and cage bottles and dozens of single bottles purchased while traveling. Never had a bottle that was infected.
     
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  26. socon67

    socon67 Poo-Bah (2,351) Jun 18, 2010 New York
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    I've brought back corked bottles from San Diego to NY. Never had an issue. Gotta think there is something else causing this.
     
  27. IceAce

    IceAce Savant (916) Jan 8, 2004 California
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    What.The.Heck?

    Is it too early to begin nominations for "Silliest Post of the Year"?
     
  28. TriggerFingers

    TriggerFingers Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2012 California

    Yep....because of the potential pressure inside. Usually, as is the case with champagne, the glass is thicker too.
     
  29. TambaTime

    TambaTime Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Recently flew from FLL to PHL with a rum BA quad by Barrel of Monks. No issues whatsoever. Take the normal precautions and you should be fine.
     
  30. JrGtr

    JrGtr Devotee (430) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts

    really? I haven't noticed any difference between C&C and capped bottles. Maybe I'm just lucky, but I don't think I've gotten many if any bottles of beer out of the store that weren't as the brewer intended - at least when relatively fresh. I have a couple bottles of something that I sort of forgot about that aren't good anymore - this is 4 or 5 years later, though.
    I do pay attention to bottled dates on IPAs and such that should be comsumed fresh, of course.
    I suppose it is possible to occasionally find the "corked" bottle of beer, to use the wine peoples terminology, but I haven't seen one.
     
  31. kalosjakar

    kalosjakar Initiate (0) May 5, 2014 Rhode Island

    What are you talking about?
     
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  32. Davey-C

    Davey-C Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2016 New York

    My friend was telling me about a "sock like" padded thing you can buy to ship bottles. Apparently it cushions and is absorbent in the event of breakage. A Google search away. Or wrap them in diapers... Either way definately worth it!
     
  33. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    Well, that must explain the price of beers coming in this format, then...the high price of two bottles out of a whole case offsets all of the bad bottles! Brilliant!
     
  34. TrojanRB

    TrojanRB Poo-Bah (1,578) Jul 27, 2013 California
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    This is ludicrous.

    Cork and cage does not lead to infected beers.
     
  35. SirBottlecap

    SirBottlecap Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2013 California

    I don't know. Maybe they've been doing it wrong for centuries.
     
  36. akolb

    akolb Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2015 Colorado
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    All I can say is that Unibroue does it and I've liked every beer I've ever had from them, so it must be okay.
     
  37. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Poo-Bah (1,824) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    No mention of beers getting "corked"? I have had corked wines, and have had corked beers. Look up cork TCA, which is in a small percent of the cork supply. If you run across it, you will know. It is a musty, earthy, fungus aroma and flavor.
     
  38. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    you can fly with it but like anything you put in you suitcase protect as much as you can you will be fine.
     
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