Could Cape Cod handle an exclusively craft beer store?

Discussion in 'New England' started by KBrennan1000, Aug 26, 2012.

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  1. KBrennan1000

    KBrennan1000 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2010 Massachusetts

    Just sitting at home and thinking about some of the new stores that have opened elsewhere in New England that are attempting to succeed without carrying Budweiser, Coors, etc. It got me wondering if such a store could exist on Cape Cod. My experience living here for all of my 29 years would tell me that there is absolutely no way such a place could survive. But with craft beer focused bars popping up all over the South Shore the word is spreading that beer can be tasty; not just used to get you shmammered. So is it possible that such a tourist heavy destination like Cape Cod could support the existence and, dare I say, prosperity of a liquor store that carried exclusively craft beer, carefully selected wines and spirits? Or am I dreaming?
     
  2. Archemedies

    Archemedies Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2011 Massachusetts

    I have wondered the same myself. As for as Cape Cod goes, the beer culture here is far behind other parts of the state. Boston, which is obviously the craft hub of the state basically gets everything leaving us with the short end of the stick distribution wise. It sucks, but what can one expect when well over half the population is old people who can barely drive.

    Another factor to consider is that all the young people in general plan on, or already have left the area. Let's face it, when you have lived here your whole life the Cape is pretty much a death trap. It is way to expensive to live here, and there is no real opportunity to get a good job here even as a recent college grad such as myself. Young people are a very important demographic to the craft beer industry, but they all leave the Cape with no intention of ever coming back. I personally cannot wait to leave this place.

    The economy is based off tourism in the summer, which only leaves a few months out of the year to make serious profits for any business around here. I seriously cannot for the life of me understand why so many people love to come here. Most of the beaches suck ass, the weather blows, there is too much traffic in the summer, and it gets worse each year. The Cape's infrastructure cannot handle the ever increasing number of people coming here and it really puts a lot of stress on us locals. In the winter it is pretty much dead, and there is nothing to do here. What is the point of sticking around?

    Craft beer needs a dedicated year round costumer base and the Cape will never have that, especially considering that 3/4 of the young people will leave and never come back. It is full of old people who could care less about it, and the tourist come for the beaches, not beer. Let's face it, the Cape is a huge retirement home and tourist trap, not a craft beer paradise. Sorry if this sounded like a rant trashing the Cape, but as a young person it is really frustrating living here in general. Even more frustrating as a beer lover. There are a few good stores around here, but pale in comparison to stores off Cape.
     
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  3. Crawfordesquire

    Crawfordesquire Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2011 North Carolina

    That was an awesome post and 110% accurate.
     
  4. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I would think yes -and no. I would think that, depending on the exact area the store was in, it might make it as a summer only proposition. Tourist season and all that. However, I don't think there are enough year Rounders to make a go of it in the lean winter months.
     
  5. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    It's extremely difficult to run the kind of store you are proposing anywhere. A place like Craft Beer Cellar is an extreme rarity. The vast majority of the better craft beer stores sell anything and everything that they can.

    And for good reason too... why not carry some macros for the people that want them? You're still talking about 90% of the beer buying public, and it's not like you need to devote a ton of shelf space to them.

    It's a romantic notion to eschew the BMC crowd and focus only on the high-end, but from a business perspective, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
     
  6. KBrennan1000

    KBrennan1000 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2010 Massachusetts

    I get your point and it certainly is valid. I know at the shop that I work at now we use Bud and Coors as our means to pay bills and allow us to take chances on some lesser known craft beer. But I have seen that some people can be flexible with what they buy. For example we don't carry Bud Light Platinum. Tons of people come in looking for it and when we tell them we don't have it, we always offer a substitute for something different. I would say about half the time people get mad and call us "Un-American" for not carrying a specific Budweiser product (which gives us a chuckle) but the other half of the time folks will either take our suggestion or find something else on their own. So people are adaptable some of the time. I'm not saying that we're better off for not carrying Platinum, far from it; hell, we'd probably be doing killer business if we switched our craft-to-macro ratio and had 80% Bud/Coors products and 20% Dogfish Head, Sierra Nevada, Stone and Cape Cod Beer. That would be the smartest business plan for a new store on Cape Cod, in my opinion.
     
  7. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    You may very well sell some of the people in the store on something non-BMC, but the odds of them returning are small. Nobody converts completely away from BMC products with one craft 6-pack. So even though next time they may pick up another craft 6-pack, they're more apt to do it at a store where they can also get a 30 of Bud Light.
     
  8. mathematizer

    mathematizer Crusader (411) Aug 3, 2006 Maine

    I'd consider Cisco and other canneries... Six point? Martin's belgian white? Baxter?

    Craft cans seem to go very well with boats, beaches, and the ocean in general.
     
  9. KBrennan1000

    KBrennan1000 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2010 Massachusetts

    There would definitely have to be an emphasis on canned beer; preferably local cans. But between 21st Amendment, Oskar Blues, Sixpoint, Baxter, Cisco, Sierra Nevada, Anderson Valley... probably forgetting some... I think that would be fairly easy to accommodate.
     
  10. dbexpert

    dbexpert Initiate (0) Sep 27, 2008 Maine

    First. It would not be a cheap store.

    The Cape/Islands are buffered by lower per capita towns. These areas struggle to sell anything premium unless at a deal. Past Plymouth you are relying on tourism for your sales. You would have to have a thoughtful wine and liquor selection to even give it a shot.

    It is mentioned already but the Cape/Islands/Fall River/New Bedford is an extremely underdeveloped beer market. It will be 3+ years for them to catch up to the suburbs.

    Also, BMC is only so bad. They will pay your rent and keep the lights on. They are trying. They can help in many ways. Just because you sell there products does not mean you have to support them.
     
  11. CapeCodBeer

    CapeCodBeer Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2004 Massachusetts

    It's so funny how two peoples vision of one place can be so different...archemedies...as we sat on the beach today acknowledging how lucky we felt to be able to live in such a wonderful place. Sometimes time away makes a difference. Us..we hope to never leave..but we did not grow up here...and may have a few years on you..tho we aren't old.

    Ii can't disagree with much that has been said, the cape is highly seasonal and about 2-3 years behind most major metro areas..we moved here from phili...and admittedly miss Monk's more than any place else...the beer culture here is changing..albeit slowly...

    There are lots of package stores with lots of growing selection...and people here are not ones to travel outside their regular triangle..ie most have been going to the same liquor store and grocery store for years..so you'd have to have a primo location..and like the rest of us you'd clearly be sucking wind in jan, feb, march and April ...

    And We know for a fact that when grain and vine opened..and started focusing on craft and unique distilled pdts?.many were quick to follow....thus making it easier for that person who once was willing to drive a bit further able to go back to their old store...

    Love the idea..not sure if now is the time for it.

    Good luck..cheers!
     
  12. jbertsch

    jbertsch Pooh-Bah (2,874) Dec 14, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Just curious, what do you typically recommend as a substitute to Bud Light Platinum?
     
  13. KBrennan1000

    KBrennan1000 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2010 Massachusetts

    Narragansett, typically. Or if they seem more adventurous we'll go with a German lager.
     
  14. KBrennan1000

    KBrennan1000 Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2010 Massachusetts

    Speaking for myself, I can definitely relate to Archemedies. As much as I know that the Cape can be a wonderful place, growing up here is like living in a bit of a no man's land. I don't doubt that I will always have a bit of a soft spot for the Cape but when the Chamber of Commerce holds a town hall style meeting to discuss why so many young people leave Cape Cod and their answer is "if you can't find a job, start your own business"... I think it kind of shows a disconnect. I would love to be in a position to start my own business, however it's hard to get yourself there unless you have a job in the first place to drum up the money for start-up. In order to get the money, it's easiest to look off Cape. There's a woeful lack of diversity in the types of work available on Cape Cod, though places such as Cape Cod Beer and the Cape Cod Young Professionals group do help in offering non-retail/restaurant/nursing/landscaping jobs. I freely admit to being jaded and am open to the possibility of suffering from "the grass is greener over there" syndrome but there are some undeniable truths about Cape Cod: cost of living is higher, in the off season there isn't much to do past 6pm, and outside of the fields I mentioned before, there just isn't much year round work to be had. Obviously the last 2 would be the case in most non-city environments but I feel like places as close as Plymouth have far more to offer young people. I agree that the Cape is always 3-5 years behind most everywhere else in MA so maybe in a few years things will look better here. I just don't know as I can wait til I'm in my mid 30's to start to settle into a career.
    So in summation, I think Cape Cod is about 5 years away from being a place where a Craft Beer Cellar-esque store wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility. Unless the average year round resident age continues to climb...
     
  15. NardiByNature

    NardiByNature Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2011 Massachusetts

    the cape - excluding mv and nantucket - is diverse to say the least, so it depends where. a more chilled out/nice locale like the buzzards bay/no. falmouth area area (buzzards bay brewery??) would probably welcome something like that...i know i would.
     
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