Craft Beer Decides Adjunct Lagers Are Cool, Actually

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    > 6 months old; too old for me to buy this.

    Cheers!
     
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  2. tolar111

    tolar111 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,094) Aug 17, 2008 New York
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    Yeah, the delicate pilsener flavor of Warsteiner fades after a month or so
     
  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Not 1 month (I assume that was sarcastic) but at over 6 months old that beer is indeed non-fresh.

    Spend your money the way you want.

    Cheers!
     
  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    $13 12-packs of Trumer with similar dating... oh wait, it's now at $10 for newer batch 12-pack cans! :slight_smile:

    AAL? Mmm, nah. :wink:
     
  5. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    What does bourbon have to do with this discussion? Corn in other foods? So what? In beer, it's an inferior adjunct, used primarily because it is available. All sorts of shit has been historically used, corn being one of the least offensive. The historic use of arsenic does not make it good.


    The point of the article being discussed is that Corn has become acceptable for some craft brewers, which pretty much makes the point. Corn beer has not changed, it's still crappy. Well, Cream Ale. That's it.

    Cheers
     
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  6. tolar111

    tolar111 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,094) Aug 17, 2008 New York
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    I've never had that beer, but I'm a fan already. Actually I've heard nothing but good things about it.

    I have nothing against AAL's, I just don't see the point in craft beer, other than to brew that old time brew that dad or granddad used to drink.
     
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  7. dennisthreeninefiveone

    dennisthreeninefiveone Pundit (980) Aug 11, 2020 New Jersey
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    If you call the corn maize the beer tastes much better.
     
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  8. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Corn is considered fine and even desired in many products, including well regarded alcoholic drinks, yet in your world if corn is an ingredient in beer it suddenly becomes "inferior," "not good," "crappy," "a sin," etc. And you feel so bold in your opinion to say: "Nobody who likes beer or even anyone who sort of kind of likes beer is a fan of corn."

    Are you going to say that Chris Lohring of Notch Brewing discussed in the article? Are you more of an authority on the subjuct? Doubtful...highly doubtful.

    Oh right, it's all bad, except when you say it isn't. :rolling_eyes:

    Corn is just an ingredient with no inherently good or bad qualities. It is what the brewer makes of it. If you choose to lay a bunch of biased opinions about, that's all on you.
     
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  9. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    Yeah I buy Lord Chesterfield 12-packs a couple time per year, but I buy more Yuengling premium.

    I haven't seen Reading Premium yet, but I will buy it when come across it. I'm not sure why my local distributor passed on it.
     
  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Maybe there's a old dude (you know, someone almost my age... :grimacing:) who remembers all those cases of the Baltimore-Heileman-brewed Reading Premium in 16 oz. deposit "pounders" that sat around forever back in the '90s, gathering dust.

    An inglorious end to once pretty nice cheap reasonably-priced beer....
     
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  11. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Lighten up Ranbot.

    I thought we are specifically discussing beer. At Beer Advocate.

    Anyway.
    I am authority on the subject. Doubt all you want. I have a degree in Corn Science.
    Cheers
     
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  12. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  13. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    So, I guess all-malt Croft Cream Ale would have been sinful, too?:grin:
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    Unlike some of us, who are corn flakes...:wink:
     
  14. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Yes.

    It's wrong. You know my style rules.
    Croft? Still around?
    Exactly JK.

    Edit.

    Leave it to you to find that one advertisement. My Lord.
     
  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  16. Rollmeaway2loadout

    Rollmeaway2loadout Savant (1,070) Jan 30, 2016 Illinois

    Did they have any Batch 19 at the restaurant? Coors is testing or promoting it in a few Colorado spots.
     
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  17. Wanzuki

    Wanzuki Aspirant (292) Feb 14, 2015 Illinois

    American Adjunct Lagers always was a fine style. OK personally, I steer away from all lagers, but that's just this one guy's preference. And TBH to keep a consistent product on a massive production scale is no small trick. So let's face it. The reason so many craft brew fans are down on AALs is that they crushed everything else into oblivion for so many years. It's not the beer itself. It's that at the end if Prohibition, brewers found they could sell the lighter style faster and they threw their weight into that and that's how the market was structured.
     
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  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Wait - it was when I'd do beer runs up in New England in the '70s. (I doubt it was still all-malt, tho'). Croft Brewing Co. was gone, but Falstaff was still brewing the brand out of their Cranston RI Narragansett brewery. What - the new Narragansett didn't revive it yet?

    One? You're in NY State, don't tell me the pride of the great Buffalo brewing industry, Moffat's Ale and Porter Brewery, is gone, too! :astonished:
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    Oh, why so formal? You can just call me "Jess".:wink:
     
  19. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Two beers I enjoy every time I'm traveling are PreProhibition Lagers.

    Austin Beer Garden Brewing makes Rocket 100, which is excellent. I will sometimes alterneye it with their German Pils named Industry, and it is a toss up which I enjoy the most.

    In Albuquerque New Mexico the Native American owned Bow and Arrow Brewing mapes a very nice PrePro Pilsners named Denim Tux. This one uses Blue Corn to keep with their Native American heritage. Only about 11% of the grainbill is Blue Corn, so the corn aroma and flavor don't come through stongly. The blue color doesn't survive the brewing process. The beer is very food friendly and can often be found at some of the better restaurants in Santa Fe.
     
  20. muck1979

    muck1979 Zealot (555) Jul 3, 2005 Minnesota

    In the Twin Cities I can get 12-packs of Bent Paddle's Light Lager and Fair State's Crankin' Foamers, both corn-adjunct lagers, for around $15, which is not much more than a comparable macro. Bent Paddle might just be a one-off for the summer, but Crankin' Foamers has been a regular for a couple years now.
     
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