Creative vs Gimmicky

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by BigOldOaf, Sep 17, 2014.

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  1. BigOldOaf

    BigOldOaf Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2011 Massachusetts

    What's the difference for you BA folks? A lot of people seem to put beers down for being gimmicky, and I am wondering where exactly the line is crossed from being creative into gimmicky territory. Any examples would be appreciated.
     
  2. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    In my opinion, anything that really seems inspired, anything that really enhances the experience - that's creative. Anything that makes you roll your eyes... that's a gimmick.
     
  3. SensorySupernova

    SensorySupernova Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2014 California

    If it gets worse every time, it's a gimmick.
     
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  4. JayORear

    JayORear Grand Pooh-Bah (3,058) Feb 22, 2012 California
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    This isn't a well thought-out answer, necessarily, but for me, "creative" means using surprising/interesting ingredients and/or techniques to create something that's still recognizable primarily as a beer. (Like many sours, good coffee beers.) Gimmicky (again, for me) is trying to create something that, if given the choice, you'd just as well have the regular, non-beer, even food version of. (For example, most pumpkin beers and Big Gruesome.)
     
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  5. Uniobrew31

    Uniobrew31 Pooh-Bah (1,567) Jan 16, 2012 Pennsylvania
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    Brewing using unusual or non traditional ingredients is creative. Things that are only there for the attention factor such as, spuds Mckenzie or a bimbo in a commercial is gimmiky. Just my take but I think the line is that if something enhances a beer I consider it creative, if it is just smoke and mirrors with no real quality enhancement it is a gimmick. Good post, great question op!
     
  6. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Creative is something you like. Gimmicky is something you don't like.
     
  7. HighWine

    HighWine Initiate (0) Dec 11, 2010 Illinois

    'Round here if it's done by a cool brewery with high trade potential it's creative. If it's done by a larger, successful brewery with good distribution, then it's gimmicky and must be hated.
     
  8. misternebbie

    misternebbie Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I feel the craft brewers tend to be the innovators with the macros leaching on their ideas with all the gimmicks, rebates and advertising they can throw at the market.
    Nebbie
     
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  9. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    Creative if something is done with the intention of making a better or interesting product, with salability coming second.
    Gimmick if something is done with the intention of attracting attention or publicity, with quality coming second.


    If you look at the dictionary meaning of the verb, it sums it up well: "to equip or embellish with unnecessary features, especially in order to increase salability, acceptance, etc."
     
  10. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    Does it taste good
     
  11. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    Simply put but true. If it tastes good and its different you'd call it creative. If it's different and you don't like it, you'd call it a cheap gimmick. Even if its an original idea.
     
  12. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    Yea Nebbie!
     
  13. LambicPentameter

    LambicPentameter Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2012 Nebraska

    Whether a beer is gimmicky or creative depends entirely on the drinker.

    Some beers are both, truth be told.
     
  14. PVMT

    PVMT Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2014 New York

    Simple answer: It's creative if it works. It's gimmicky if it doesn't.
     
  15. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Florida

    Using odd ingredients can go either way. If it's used to enhance the beer, it's creative. If it's used just so you can say it was used, it's gimmicky.

    If you're trying to create a beer that tastes like a particular food, well that's honestly gimmicky in my opinion, even though sometimes the results can be rather enjoyable. I'm sure plenty of people disagree with me here, but it's how I feel.
     
  16. Redneckwine

    Redneckwine Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2013 Washington

    This is right on the money. Cheers to you, Bluehende. Whether you like/dislike the taste, or you just like/dislike the idea; in my book, the only difference between creative and gimmicky is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  17. ArsMoriendiOU818

    ArsMoriendiOU818 Pooh-Bah (1,632) Nov 5, 2013 Virginia
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    Tactical Nuclear Penguin = gimmick. I.e., there's no purpose of these beer's existence except to be absurdly high ABV.

    Grey Monday = creative. I.e., the high ABV (though obviously not TNP high) is just a component of the overall flavor profile and the hazelnuts compliment the beer.

    I also think gimmicky beers tend to be a one-and-done pursuit, whereas creative beers can be almost endlessly appreciated.
     
  18. leroybrown10

    leroybrown10 Pooh-Bah (2,416) Jan 26, 2008 Missouri
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    This
     
  19. flagbearer

    flagbearer Initiate (0) Jul 20, 2014 Pennsylvania

    so true! i hate beer snobs who base ratings off whether or not its made by a large or small scale brewery. i just have recently laughed when i looked at ratings for octoberfest beers. i know taste is all a matter of opinion but how in the hell can only 1 of the top 8 octoberfest beers be german?! just makes me think if a lot of these snobs base it off of how cool it looks to like something thats not known ny your average beer drinker.
     
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  20. TommyTheHat

    TommyTheHat Initiate (0) Jul 30, 2014 Pennsylvania

    1000 ibu's is a gimmick.
    This is more along the lines of creative:
    JavaHead's recipe is based on our original Oatmeal Stout. After the boil, the hot wort passes through our hopback vessel on its way to fermentation. Packed full of whole leaf hops and a bed of ground coffee beans, the hopback vessel is similar to using a huge French press, intensifying the coffee nose and releasing subtle hints of coffee flavor. The result is a lush, smooth mouthfeel balanced with cocoa, roast, and subtle coffee flavors.
     
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