Crowler tips for maintaining carbonation

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  1. Scotchboy

    Scotchboy Pooh-Bah (2,990) Dec 7, 2010 Idaho
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    Probably a simple answer but I thought I would ask the question here any way - I don’t normally pick up crowlers but I have a few stocked up now and am wondering if I’m committed to drinking 32oz of beer by myself once I pop it, or are there any tricks to maintaining carb over multiple days?

    One thing I’m considering is putting the first half of the crowler straight into a mason jar and sealing it immediately, I’m sure it would still have carb the next day or so.

    Since I’m solo-doming over here and I like variety, not having to rush to kill 32oz of the same beer would be preferable...

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. zeff80

    zeff80 Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,425) Feb 6, 2006 Missouri
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    Just drink 32oz.
     
  3. Peach63

    Peach63 Pooh-Bah (2,442) Jul 17, 2019 New York
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    Last time I did that with a 64oz. Growler, it was 12% ABV. I was on my ass!:grimacing:
     
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  4. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    There is no good way to maintain carbonation once opened unfortunately. Unless you have a source of CO2 gas and a keg.

    The CO2 in the beer wants to equilibrate to the CO2 pressure in atmosphere, and once opened the gas is constantly leaving liquid and entering air. If you pour the beer into a container and close it the CO2 will just migrate to the headspace. Once you open the container the CO2 is gone to atmosphere. More headspace allows for more gas to escape, so the smallest fraction of space is desirable.

    There is also the problem of oxidation, which happens fairly quickly. Once oxygen is exposed to beer, the O2 molecules begin to migrate into the liquid because again, the gas want to equilibrate only this time from atmosphere to beer.

    But the colder the liquid the more gas it can hold, so if you open a can and want to save some for later, put it in the fridge. Even for a little while it will slow down the migration of CO2 gas to atmosphere.

    Of course everyone is telling you to drink it all. You going somewhere Zippy?
    Cheers
     
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  5. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    The mason jar will work somewhat. This is why I dislike crowlers.
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  6. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Bill, if you slowly poured half of the crowler (i.e., 16 ounces) into a 16 ounce jar, how well would this work as regards retaining carbonation?

    I recognize this method doesn't 'fix' the oxidation problem.

    Cheers!
     
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  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Once the can is opened the gas is going to begin leaving. You might be able to pour a still glass, that is to say beer with no foam, but that is not helping the other 16 ounces. But sure, as little agitation as possible helps.

    If you get the beer down to around 32F it will look flat in fact because the gas molecules are not escaping but rather stay dissolved in the liquid. This is why really cold beer tends to make you feel bloated (well, maybe not you, but people in general). That is really the only thing that can be done without a source of CO2.

    One other point, whatever you do don't use a wine capper with the pump. This removes air which is great for wine but it also removes everything else, including the CO2 present in atmosphere. The pump does create a vacuum and it does not select O2 gas only. So the CO2 dissolved in the liquid now wants to equilibrate in into a CO2 defficient atmosphere (headspace) and even more molecules will leave the liquid, faster, to fill the void.

    Cheers
     
  8. lackenhauser

    lackenhauser Pooh-Bah (2,721) Dec 10, 2002 Maryland
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    If youre going to do this on a regular basis buy a capper, caps and empty bottles. I have had decent success when splitting 750s....
     
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  9. Hookstrat

    Hookstrat Zealot (728) Jan 15, 2006 Iowa
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    They are talking about pouring half into a 16oz mason jar and quickly sealing it for later consumption.
     
  10. deleted_user_1007501

    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    I’d say drink 16 oz, and then store the remaining 16 oz in your stomach.
     
  11. Beertsipper

    Beertsipper Pooh-Bah (1,707) Nov 18, 2008 New York
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    If I purchase a crowler, I make sure of the the set of circumstances I'll be in when consuming it, and the environment I'll be at, so that I will drink the entire content.

    Otherwise, I'll get a growler.
     
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  12. Scotchboy

    Scotchboy Pooh-Bah (2,990) Dec 7, 2010 Idaho
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    I’ve seen this on YouTube and I think it’s been fairly successful in maintaining carb in bottles like the swing-tops that are well-sealed. The key is to not leave any headspace for air, and then drink within 24 hours. I’ll test that out.
     
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  13. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Personally never had a problem drinking 32 ozs but I never buy crowlers that are like 10% and above. Friend was just saying how it was hard drinking a full 32 oz crowler of 8% beer, I was thinking really? I guess I do have a drinking problem.
     
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  14. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    Yes. I know. My post is prety clear and the the response is the same. The beer doesn't care if it is sealed in a mason jar or not. It is still losing carbonation. My advice is to minimize headspace in this instance, and it is not really any great solution.
     
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  15. lackenhauser

    lackenhauser Pooh-Bah (2,721) Dec 10, 2002 Maryland
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    Yeah score a 4 pack of Grolsch and you're there!!! The worse part is if the beer is really foamy it spews out and it is hard to top the bottle up.
     
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  16. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Yeah, I had a 16.5% crowler once and without bothering to do the math I drank it in a sitting. Luckily I was sitting. That's the equivalent of an 8.8 pack of Bud.

    In general, when I have a crowler, I think of it as two 16oz beers which I'll drink within 6 hours of opening. I just stick it in the fridge and make no effort to seal it. I much prefer 32oz grumblers/growlettes, but even there you should finish it within 24 hours of opening.
     
  17. Scotchboy

    Scotchboy Pooh-Bah (2,990) Dec 7, 2010 Idaho
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    This is what I’ll do for at least one of the crowlers, and I’m sure some time in the fridge won’t completely kill the carbonation.
     
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  18. BeerGeekExtraordinaire

    BeerGeekExtraordinaire Zealot (542) Mar 6, 2020 Illinois
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    I have been wondering about this also. I guess this means I will just have to drink 32 ounces. Darn.
     
  19. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    The stronger it is, the less you'll notice the reduced carbonation. Or care. :wink:
     
  20. mikeinportc

    mikeinportc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Nov 4, 2015 New York
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    You can tightly wrap open crowler with plastic wrap,at least 2 layers, immediately after pouring, & secure it with a tie or rubberband.

    What I've done for growlers that get flat/flattish before I'm done with them, is open a can of a beer with a similar taste profile, preferably milder, & mix them.If the flat(ish) beer is much better, then a 1:5 ratio is usually enough for adequate carbonation, with the better beer's flavor pretty much intact. Or at least compatible beer. First time I did that was because a cold set in after I opened it, but before I finished the first glass. Couldn't smell or taste much, & it was 4 days before I felt better.

    I've even done that with fully-carbonated beers that are less-than-great. Each can cover the flaw(s) in the other beer, & create something better than either.

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