customer service and craft beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by terrapinbrian, Feb 21, 2016.

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  1. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    He reasked the question one entire year later. If that counts as too repetitive and your business is that monolithically static then i have to wonder why the brewery bothers to maintain a social media presence at all.

    And drop the 'special *********' nonsense. He simply and politely asked if they had anything planned. He didnt ask them to do anything "special" for him.
     
  2. readyski

    readyski Pooh-Bah (1,557) Jun 4, 2005 California
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    Not sure if these isolated incidents paint the entire brewery. Try another avenue before giving up (phone call?)
     
  3. needMIbeer

    needMIbeer Pooh-Bah (2,178) Feb 5, 2014 Virginia
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    As someone who works in the Hospitality industry I find their response to be totally unacceptable.

    If someone on my team was to respond to a guest in that manner we'd be having an in depth conversation likely followed by some paperwork to be signed.

    I understand that from a business perspective these kinds of messages and requests can get overwhelming and time consuming. In this case they'd have been better off just not responding at all rather than making themselves look like a bunch of assholes.

    Vote with your dollars!
     
  4. Maakun

    Maakun Initiate (0) Oct 12, 2012 Netherlands
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    It's interesting to see the differences between what people in the US expect from customer service and here in The Netherlands. Making screenshots of a reply like this? And then people calling the employee a '****' and 'rats' and so on? Ofcourse he could have been nicer, but I also could have ignored the question (which is what I would have done) and obviously asking these questions is seeking preferential treatment, but oh the horror when someone calls you out on it...
     
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  5. riverlen

    riverlen Pundit (852) Sep 16, 2009 Illinois

    I was involved in customer service at one time. I would never give such a rude answer regardless of circumstances. Nor would I allow it from anyone under me. Your customers are the reason for you being there no matter what your position is. It really IS that fucking simple.
     
  6. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Actually, sometimes I reach out and ask if there are going to be any release parties/etc. when I am thinking of stopping with the family because I know it will be way too crowded and I want a quieter/less hectic environment (not everyone in my family has a ton of patience in waiting around). I'm actually looking for them to confirm they are not hosting any events when I'm thinking of stopping by.
     
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  7. ChangSing

    ChangSing Zealot (640) May 5, 2013 Illinois
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    It's a sad state of affairs when doing your fucking job is now considered 'preferential treatment'. No matter how dumb the quesiton could be (and this was a very polite question and in no way asking for preferential treatment), if you don't like answering questions from the people paying your bills, get a new job. I get that this guy could just be having a bad day as we all can, and that it can be annoying to asnwer the same question..but you answer the question and then if you want to be a dick, do it after you say "sorry, but we have a policy of only announcing bottle releases the day of. thanks for your understanding".
     
  8. BaseballNBeer

    BaseballNBeer Crusader (490) Apr 22, 2015 Michigan
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    Can't both the OP and SARA's social media person be wrong? I completely agree that the company's responses were well out of line and unacceptable. However, the OP did himself no favors when he basically asked the same question in roughly the same manner as last year. Even more so, their response to the previous question was on the same screen he used this year. Had he asked if their policy had changed first, maybe he wouldn't have given the brewery a chance to flip out.

    He knew the brewery had a policy of not pre-announcing bottle releases, but his question ignored that knowledge. The customer is not always right. That shouldn't, and doesn't, excuse the response, though.

    I'm also very shocked the brewery referenced their previous communications.
     
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  9. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Not sure I can completely agree with you when said questions are a year apart... lots changes in a year (especially in how beer releases are done).

    Nevertheless, I feel like the response was not very polite and could have been handled much better.

    Could the OP have phrased his question differently, something along the lines of "has the policy concerning the announcement of releases changed since last year?" Sure but I don't think being rude as a customer service person is an appropriate response (especially since the OP was not rude in their question and did not ask for any "special" treatment like holding a bottle/etc.).
     
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  10. bylerteck

    bylerteck Grand Pooh-Bah (3,167) May 17, 2009 Canada (ON)
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    So you checked their fb daily right?

    He said they don't announce releases and you asked him to do that.

    He wasn't exactly the most professional in his response, but you also kinda pushed him to that by asking a question he probably gets all the time, even though the question has an answer provided already.
     
  11. Invinciblejets

    Invinciblejets Pooh-Bah (1,710) Sep 29, 2014 South Carolina
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    Hasn't this Brewery been brought up on here before for customer service issues?
     
  12. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    I think you summed it up very well. If I had wanted to ask that question again, I wouldn't have done so in the same manner that showed the prior response on the same screen. I probably would've given them a call instead.

    I'm not surprised by their response, though, either. I honestly think there are a ton of breweries that have bad customer service, like they are going out of their way to serve me. Maybe it's got to do with bad/annoying customers, but I know plenty of other industries & businesses with bad/annoying customers that don't act like the response the OP received.
     
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  13. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    I have traveled both solo and with family and have visited many breweries along the way. One of the only times I called a brewery to see if something that was posted as being on sale was still on sale was when I was traveling through Chicago and saw that 3 floyds had Zombie Dust on sale. It was 3 pm and I was unfamiliar how 3 floyds' conducts their in-house sales and if it was sold out, I wanted to avoid the traffic, etc. and save time. All I got was a recording so I went anyway and luckily they were not sold out.

    My point is, if it's information that you know should be posted somewhere, like hours of operation or what's available, look for it, follow links and don't be so goddamn lazy and just call the brewery. Yes, the response the OP got was uncalled for, but on the other hand, if you've never been on the other end of "customer service" put yourself in the place of that responder on a aggravating day and you may feel differently.
     
  14. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    I get all that, I'm just saying if a brewery has a "no heads-up" policy, then it's not really reasonable to get bent out of shape when they don't make an exception for you. I could be wrong, but I don't even think their elusive club's members even get advanced notice for public releases.
     
  15. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    I get all that, I'm just saying if a brewery has a "no heads-up" policy, then it's not really reasonable to get bent out of shape when they don't make an exception for you. I could be wrong, but I don't even think their elusive club's members even get advance
    Just to be clear, I agree that there's nothing wrong with asking. However, if you get a response that they don't do then you ask them again and they're consistent with their response (could have worded it better, tho) then it's time to accept it and move on.
     
  16. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    It seems clear to me that the OP never would have started this thread if the response had been something along the lines of "sorry bro, policy is still the same as last year". I dont see any indication that he's upset about the policy itself.
     
  17. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    You're not very familiar with the economics of luxury goods, are you?
     
  18. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    If you are not a local/regular with the brewery, asking 12 months later if that is still the same policy (albeit in different words) does not warrant that level of rudeness in the response - the employee responsible still works in the hospitality/customer service industry and needs to treat customers and potential customers politely.
     
  19. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Exactly, he is just asking if that still is the case not expressing any kind of complaint about the policy or asking to preferential treatment.

    Would people be getting bent out of shape if he asked what is the happy hour special a year later to see if it had changed?

    And would they be supportive of the employees attitude/response.
     
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  20. ions

    ions Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2014 Maryland

    I love all my local breweries. I've had conversations with almost all their staff and people who run their respective social media accounts.

    They have always gone out of their way to help me when I have questions and even held some releases for me for when I can't make the 2-3hr drive to a can release cause of work and such. They know I'm loyal and they know I'm not there just to stock up on beer to trade. They know I love to support the local guy.

    That being said that person was an asshat and I would no longer give them my business.
     
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