customer service and craft beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by terrapinbrian, Feb 21, 2016.

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  1. RogelioRodriguez

    RogelioRodriguez Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2015 California

    You asked a direct question and got a direct answer. They rudely insinuated that you were demanding preferential treatment. I think the appropriate answer would have been "we don't know when we will be ready with any new products, our current offerings are of limited quantities, and we do our best to keep going, thank you for your interest"

    I mean it's really that simple. No matter how annoying the customer is, you've got to be cordial. Sadly you weren't handled properly.

    If it makes you feel any better, I think they make lousy beer.
     
  2. Chcshammonde

    Chcshammonde Initiate (0) Sep 20, 2014 California

    Had mixed emotions reading this post. OP did indeed ask the same question twice in the thread with SARA. The policy is the policy, as they say, they really don't announce any bottle releases, you have to check the Facebook/Instagram when they open each day to see if they have bottles or not.

    So SARA was not in the wrong there, they have tons of people who drive a long way to get there. Hell, I'm in the Bay area and it was a 2 hour round trip drive. They're off the beaten path regardless. Everyone has to follow the same rules, or so I thought...

    During my SARA trip, i was fortunate to pick up 2 bottles of the Saison Bernice. I really wanted to purchase a third, and even asked if there was a chance that I could. No dice. Then, I see people coming in in droves that are picking up more than two bottles. Bartender was checking some list when they were coming in. I assumed that maybe these were locals who had special privileges. Then, a some dudes walked up and only bought one bottle each of the Bernice. Some guy who was sitting in the back was apparently watching closely - he asked if he could "buy their remaining allocation ". She obliged and handed the dude two bottles. This guy had like 8 bottles on his table.

    And what's funny is, I had asked the bartender if there was ANY WAY possible that I could buy extra bottles.

    To me, this was cronyism/double standard bullshit. But I didn't want to make a big deal and say anything. I had one hour to enjoy my beers and get back to work. I felt like there was quite a bit of favoritism going on at SARA, but I will be back because the beers were great. Hopefully they reign this in but I'm not keeping my fingers crossed.
     
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  3. Nittybeat

    Nittybeat Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 California

    That's insane. If a customer brought this to my attention at my brewery the one responsible would receive a lot of corrective training.

    Guys, I don't care how popular/profitable a brewery or any company is, you cannot treat customers like that. It doesn't matter if questions or inquiries are repetitive or downright stupid..

    Money is definitely attracting the wrong people to this industry.
     
  4. anth0ny

    anth0ny Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2012 Michigan

    I stopped right after I read the words "preferential treatment". Eff those people.
     
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  5. anth0ny

    anth0ny Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2012 Michigan

    Doesn't matter. Having a business that sells products to customers means customer service. If you can't hold back your condescending thoughts to the customers, you have no business selling anything to them. Look at the sh*t comments that breweries like Bell's and Founders have to deal with on their Facebook pages. Do you see them acting that way? No, because they are pros.
     
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  6. Nittybeat

    Nittybeat Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 California

    Exactly!

    Every brewery will have bad reviews and unruly customers now that Yelp and untapped are a thing. Technology has given the consumer power and a sense of entitlement and all that means from the business side is that they adapt.
     
  7. anth0ny

    anth0ny Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2012 Michigan

    Because they're so INSANELY popular. I mean, they've got TEN THOUSAND Facebook likes! Never heard of them until today. Must be a truly shitty life to have people want to buy the products you are selling, so let's be a dick about it.
     
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  8. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    They're one of California's most popular breweries among beer geeks. People will drive several hours round trip just to get two bottles to go. I'm sure there are hyped breweries that I haven't heard of in the Midwest, but that really doesn't mean anything now does it? Kind of hard to keep up these days.

    Sante's method for the last few years has been just a picture of the board on FB and Instagram (maybe twitter, too?), which the OP surely knew this since the communication came through FB. I agree they could have worded it more politely (we all agree on this!), but he knew he was asking for an exception to be made. I've seen and heard about many far more egregious customer service experiences in the past. They got short with him. Not that big of deal IMO. He clearly still feels slighted by their curtness *and* the fact that they didn't make an exception which you can infer in the wording of the OP. I've had worse done to me in person and got over it.
     
  9. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    :astonished: What sort of big buck salaries are Brewery Facebook Jockeys pulling down these days?
    Fringe benefits? (Other than a free beer after work.)
     
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  10. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    Anyone who has followed them on Facebook for over a year, which one can safely presume the OP has, knows exactly how they do things. They never announce bottle releases except on the same day. OP asked for special treatment, didn't get it and got bent out of shape over it. The wording of the response was handled poorly, but I don't think the wording is the only reason for this thread.
     
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  11. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Just because you went to their page and/or messaged them does not mean that he followed them on facebook for over a year - I certainly check places that I am going to travel to but do not follow their page (I went to Savannah twice in the last year and checked out places facebook pages but do not follow any of them). I think you are making a big assumption about the OP's behavior/habits to justify the behavior of the employee.
     
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  12. croush

    croush Pooh-Bah (2,407) Mar 20, 2015 Illinois
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    Exactly...and it doesn't give the brewery (or ANY other business) the right to be a jerk in response. As said before, much bigger breweries and companies have dealt with many more jerky customers than this (and I'm not saying OP was a jerk) and have courteously dealt with it. If the brewery employee was having a "bad day", then that person shouldn't be dealing with customer inquiries, and that is the brewery's fault.
     
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  13. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    It's hardly a big assumption and I don't excuse the wording the employee used. I'm just fairly convinced he knew he was asking for special treatment. That's all.
     
  14. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Guess that we just have to disagree - if he had asked for bottles to be held for him, being allowed to purchase more than the allotment, etc. I would agree that he wanted preferential treatment but asking if any releases are scheduled after a year (from last contact) is not... OP even says he would have been fine if the response was a polite "our policy is not to announce" rather than what was said.
     
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  15. Nittybeat

    Nittybeat Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2015 California

    Considering that most small breweries cannot afford to pay someone just to manage social media (it isnt that hard) it is more than likely someone in a managerial position or an owner.

    Regardless, you missed the point.
     
  16. Jaycase

    Jaycase Grand Pooh-Bah (3,858) Jan 13, 2007 Illinois
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    Apologies for parsing the conversation but OP mentioned himself that because he has a long drive and is traveling with family that he did not think it was a big deal to ask about bottle release details a few days ahead of his date window. This could be interpreted as OP seeking preferential treatment due to his long drive & accompanying family. I can see it this way certainly.
     
  17. CJNAPS

    CJNAPS Pooh-Bah (2,492) Nov 3, 2013 California
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    He shouldn't have acted like your bothering him, most of the time breweries are happy to talk to you and glad your stopping by lol. I visit Sara a lot and never get a bad vibe, maybe he was having a rough one but either way can't put that on customers.
     
  18. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I don't dispute that fact (I don't think anyone does)... but if you look at the time stamps on the messages, it was a year after they had mentioned that they don't announce them (not right afterwards). I have no problem asking a brewery about stuff when I am going to be in the area on vacation - does it justify the employee of the brewery being kind of a jerk???
     
  19. BrewsingBuffalo

    BrewsingBuffalo Initiate (0) Jul 6, 2015 New York

    I with you on this one. While I can understand what @Jaycase is saying, I think it is largely immaterial. Whether the employee thought the OP was trying to get preferential treatment doesn't matter, because he treated the customer in an unsatisfactory manner, which is all that's relevant (IMO, of course).
     
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  20. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Maybe I'm a little more sensitive to the issue since I got a similar treatment in person at Cycle in St Pete, FL - I was having a conversation with one bartender just inquiring how often any of the stouts end up on draft and if there was any chance of seeing them on draft the week I was in town... The other bartender made a comment about entitled jerks from out of town expecting the royal treatment and that if I really wanted to know I could search through the history of the posting on social media and make my own assumptions. I had been to Cycle twice before and Peg's one other time and had just never gotten to try any of the stouts - not looking for trade bait or even to take anything home with me... Just had been hearing about the stouts for years and wanted the chance to try if it seemed likely.

    Since I was in town with my family to help get my wife's grandmother settled into a new place, I wasn't planning on keeping that close an eye on social media for all the local places - but if there was a decent chance I would have made sure to keep checking.
     
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