Cylindrical vs. Rectangular Cooler for Mash Tun?

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  1. MTBrewr

    MTBrewr Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2014 Minnesota

    Looking to move to all-grain brewing and go the popular route of converting a cooler. What are the pros/cons of going with a 10gal cylindrical cooler vs. a larger rectangular cooler? I'm looking to brew 10gal batches.
     
  2. flagmantho

    flagmantho Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,674) Feb 19, 2009 Washington
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    Doing a 10 gal batch could be a tall order even with a 10 gallon cylindrical cooler, especially if you are doing higher-gravity beers. I could barely do 12 or 13 lbs of grain in my 5-gallon, and my 10-gallon is more or less maxed out at 22 or 24 lbs (for a 5.5-gallon batch).

    If you are doing a Scotch ale or imperial stout, and want 10 gallons, you will need something way more capacious than a 10-gallon cylindrical. A big chest cooler may be the best option.
     
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  3. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Aside from the obvious size restrictions of the round coolers, it depends on your mode of lautering as well.

    The deeper grain bed of the water cooler type mash tuns will lend better to fly sparing for sure. It will be better for the grain bed.

    I use a 10gal igloo. I can get around 23 pounds of grain in there, and get around 1.125 max OG for a 5 gal batch I think. I don't see myself making much bigger, so it's easy to go that route.

    If you plan to batch sparge, I'm sure both will be just fine. Think about what your max end would be in batch size, and OG, and look around.
     
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  5. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Same here with my 5 gal cooler. Batches are reduced in size above around 13lbs of grain and around ~8% ABV. But since I usually brew beers below this threshold, it's not a huge problem.

    The main problem with a square cooler is that it's really hard to find square bottles to put your beer into later. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  6. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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  7. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    If you have Beersmith, it has a water volume needed section. Thats how I decide on 5 or 10 gal batches. Another problem with the square cooler is lack of false bottom. Makes fly sparging a little difficult. But I'm sure it's done.
     
  8. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I don't think it really makes any inherent difference what shape it is for a given size, at least at home brew scale (there can and are arguments about pro-size for wide and shallow versus narrow and tall tuns and fermenters.)
    I have a 48qt rectangular that has plenty of room. I do brew 5 gal batches, but I believe there would be room in my tun to do a 10 gallon batch at roughly 1.070 SG. Haven't tried it, don't plan to anytime soon, just going by eyeballing.
     
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  9. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Extrapolating from my own system*... 1.070 is borderlining on your max OG without requiring any fudging, alteration, creativity, specialized engineering adaptations, or help from alien entities (tonight on "learning channel.") :rolling_eyes:

    If you don't mind fudging the water to grain ratio and sparging procedure a little, 1.070 is probably do-able for a five gallon batch on most systems with a five gallon cooler (or 10/10). If you go considerably above that, you'll sooner or later HAVE to reduce your batch size, or make major procedure alterations.

    *caveats: many
     
  10. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Exactly... I'm working with a 12 gallon cooler / tun and I did say that I was guestimating it, based on my 5 gallon batches and how full the cooler is with mash.
    I'm not planning on brewing 10 gallons that high - the only thing right now that I would consider is my pale ale (Based on the New Albion from McAuliffe as rebrewed by Sam Adams a couple years back) and that is around 1.055 OG. (measured by 2 brews of that so far)
    12 lbs of grain came to 16 qts strike water, doubling that would be 8 gallons water, 24 lbs grain. It would be really close in there, but I think it could be done. LIke I said, I'm not planning on it any time soon, just looking at numbers.
     
  11. MTBrewr

    MTBrewr Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2014 Minnesota

    Cool guys. I'm thinking of just going the 10gal igloo route and batch sparging...although those square bottles Vikeman posted almost swung me the other way.

    For any 10gal brew I do I'll just keep the OG pretty low. I'm really only interested in doing the 10gal brews now and then to do some split batch experimentation.
     
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