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Discussion in 'Great Lakes' started by TapeDeck, Mar 19, 2012.
Don't know what you're talking about, but that flannel is awesome. Besides, it kept you warm!
I have to agree. This is the first year that I saw some fights start to happen. Never thought that would happen at one of these events.
If anyone came up on 4 bottles at the event... I will offer up a fou foune and beer karma for the return of my long lost bottles...
Was nice meeting a lot of you!
I did not attend, but heard that from some friends that were there more tool bags than before. Said there were too many "tough guys."
My two buddies (25ish) went with one of their dad's (50ish). The dad was watching their stuff, including their DL allotments and Alpha Klaus while my two buddies were in line for guest taps and some "fat, college-age guy" starting going through their stuff, opening their backpack trying to take bottles. He didn't realize that the old guy by the bags was my buddies dad, and he got called out on it. The dude puffed up and was like "do you wanna go old man?"
My buddies and their dad still ended up having 1 of their 4-packs stolen at some point, which is disappointing.
holy shit dude it was the best drama ever. mr. dlello2 was just taking a video of our little table at the end of DLD and all of the sudden a bench flips over and there's a guy dripping with beer and his wife is screaming some rude things. best day ever.
Dave was telling me about this, I desperately want to see this video!
In the previous events that I have attended, people are always nice and just want to have a good time and share/talk about beer. Sure, people get smashed, but I never ran into a drunk that wasn't nice, if not passed out. However, as you said, this year there were "collage type, tough guys" that seemed to push their way through lines and wanted to make scenes. The vast majority of beer geeks are like any other geeks, people that usually try and avoid fights and just want to go about their business, so a lot of that bad behavior just got ignored.
But, if this starts to be a trend, people scalping ticks and beer for money and more of those type of people showing up each year, I may reconsidering going. The wife and I always make a trip out of it, staying in Chi-Town and visiting all the local breweries and brew pubs over a long weekend, so I would hate to stop going. But, considering that the beer scene is getting more attention and attracting more people, I suppose the undesirable type is also going to get pulled in as well.
Saw a fight break out while one of the bands was playing. Not sure what it was about but the one dude was clearly drunk off his ass. Somebody said he had also dropped all his DL bottles on the ground earlier. I don't want to ever be that guy.
Yes Dave...please post this gem...I need a good laugh from that day
I want one of the look on your face when I stopped you outside Revolution.
Indeed. I was selling the barrel aged bottles and sort of grilled the douchy looking dudes who clearly had no clue what they were buying. I told them they would be hunted down by BA's and have their asses kicked.
The video is not THAT great--mostly just a crazy wife yelling at her (probably far too) drunk husband. but I did put it on vimeo with a password. If you want a link just bm me.
MINUS: (Production cost+event management+security+equipment rental+Bands) (High on Fire and Eye Hate God can't be cheap).
PLUS (merch sales + case/6pack/bottle sales + pint sales + pub sales + ticket sales) = they fucking banked
ETA: ticket sales
MINUS (capital start-up costs, capital expansion costs)....OK, I'm tired of this already. Do you think that 3FFFs should have thrown this party for free? Not sure why some folks think that brewers shouldn't profit off of what they do. This is 'merica, after all!
I did see one incident - towards late afternoon (6ish) when the sun finally came out some guy cut in line for the bathroom on the left side (if facing FFF). Someone put a stick in the port-o-john door so they couldn't get back out. The guy struggled for a few minutes then broke out and threw his beer all over everyone. That was when I knew it was time....that and being on my feet for many hours.
Otherwise I thought it was great. My $.02 change - glad they added the taps in the line to purchase DL, but I would also replace a couple port-o-johns over there. The line moves slowly and a bathroom is necessary. People were taking leaks on the chain link fence.
Didn't try any guest drafts but was very surprised by the way two separate bottles of '11 DL tasted - and also a 2005 Bells Eccentric Ale.
Not at all. Good for them. I do think that the variants are overpriced though, but I am one of the suckers that threw down $50 for 'winning.'
I just think it's interesting to try to wrap my head around the gross income a place like that can bring in in one day.
the bathroom situation was the most organized thing ever surprisingly. each time i went (sorry to one of the warehouse buildings as we waited outside)to the restroom, i never waited, walked right in. they were pretty 'clean' too.
i didn't see any fights break out, bottles break either. i saw a couple of dudes that were pretty canned but they themselves knew it and were relaxing and being chill. didn't bump into any 'bros'.
I was around mostly well behaved people. I shared a few brews with people in front of me in line. They did not have anything to share back, but did not care. Once we got near the entrance a few drunk morons were being loud, but not trying to fight at least. Plenty of people being pushy in line for bottles though. Overall I had a great time, but by time I got my bottles I was ready to leave at 5:15. Stopped by a tasting table at the end to try a few brews and leave my last finch IPA. A good day, but a long one. I imagine the more popular craft beer becomes the worse this event will get.
what time was this around? I remember getting a pour of it and i shared it with a few people because it blew me away lol i had on a dark green carhart jacket
is there a place i can find the complete guest tap list for DLD 2012...cant seem to find it anywhere!!!
While waiting in the queue (past the 'Dark Lord Bottle Sales' sign) with Group C, I decided to actually step out of line to go use a porta-potty (instead of peeing on the fence). I was gone maybe 3 minutes. When I was getting back to my spot, got accused of line-cutting from a frat-looking dude, and he instantly got raged and all puffy. I calmly explained and showed him the girl in line that was holding my backpack for me (to prove I had been there), but he didn't want to hear about it. I then ignored him and didn't hear anything else.
So, maybe at that point he had just had enough with all the line-cutting and took it out on me, I don't know.
To step back a tick, for waiting in line for Group C, I got in line at roughly 3:15. Around 4 o'clock, when I think they basically stopped the line until a little after 5, I was maybe 20 yards from the Dark Lord Bottles Sale sign. The line was your average line, maybe 3-4 people wide. By 5 o'clock, the line was seemingly 25 people wide, so everyone basically ignored everything and it was a free-for-all. I wasn't worried, of course, because I knew I was guaranteed my bottles, but it was still a little irritating. If I were to get lucky and get a 'Yes' scratch-off, I could envision asking for a Vanilla and being told "sorry, just sold out a minute ago".
Well, I did get lucky, asked for the Vanilla, and was told they sold out with Group B. I thought last year they rationed that stuff for each session?
Last year to me was much smoother with getting your bottles - I think the difference was, and I'm sure this has been mentioned in these threads, that they didn't let you line up outside the gates for the bottles? At least for Group C, anyways. I had Group C last year and I thought we lined up outside the gates, down the street, and there was no question at all what line you were in. This year's line was a complete cluster.
I was thinking the same. I remember the line for bottles going outside the gates most of the day. Yeah, it sucked for people to have to cut through to get to one side or the other, but as you say, at least everyone knew which line they were in.
this is ridiculous, i cant believe this stuff is going on. stolen beer? complete bullshit
Still leaps and bounds better than XV
Though the line cutting was bad this year, it was a million times better than XV.
Better than XV, but worse than DLD '11.
What was the line like for Group A? I think I've read it took people until noon to get inside the gates? So, again, the bottle line connected to the main line to get inside the gates (like XV), or no?
We got in line at 9:30a (group A tix) and yes, didn't get inside until noon. However I don't think the main line was connected to the bottle line. There were just a ton of people in front of us. There were only 1 or 2 people issuing wristbands. And there were certainly line-cutters as well.
We got there by 530 am. Our group A walked thru the beer ticket sales line in no time whatsoever. Were also able to get Apple brandy zhukov and hunah no problem, and were in the pub by noon. But when we got out of the pub around 1245/1, it was a clusterfuck. Took me 45+ min to get thru the DLD ticket sale line
We got there around 9:45 (A group). It was after noon by the time we were inside the gates. The bottle line was confusing because there was just one large mass of people around the entrance. Turns out the B group folks were lining up already. We pushed past to where the staff person was checking tickets and got into the actual line. From there the line moved quickly, I doubt if it took 30 min to get our bottles.
You can't believe this? Look at it this way: if you were at a party and each person had a stack of $250 in cash sitting on picnic tables around the party, would you be surprised if some of those stacks got stolen?
I try to see the good in people, but seriously, you gotta watch your stuff.
Mark, quit liking posts and MAKE posts!
I'm EASILY the top "liker" on BA, without even a question. I doubt it's tracked, but I'm kind of a "like" whore...
The Too Much Time really helped your like count
Just make sure post 1,000 is May 7 at 7PM OH time Then you'll LIKE the box i BIF you haha.
Very true. And the fact that I was following the Jeopardy thread as well. Too many funny posts
That, or I'm just super easily amused...
Why can't it be both?
Thought I'd post the tap list that was given to us when we (finally) got into the pub at around 2pm...
EDIT: Guess you have to right click and open the pic in a new tab to see it full sized...
it sounds like they were watching their stuff and got their stuff stolen. straight thieves were out prowling. its the reason i stay out of the shitty part of town, i didnt think a beer event would be a place for thieves, its disheartening.
every place with a crowd is a place for thieves....someone tried picking my wallet at the XV party during the Melvins show....i felt the hand go in my pocket and instantly grabbed his wrist but he wormed out and got away...