Dark Lord Day (2020)

Lmao I thought you were talking about me for a second and I was like wait now I’m being called a notorious reseller!

 

Man, everyone knew what they were getting in to by paying $200 for 5 beers of not their choosing. Yes there was some pattern to certain bags. No it wasn't completely random. If you wanted a certain beer just buy it off of secondary, pay a little more, and then you won't have to bitch about obviously getting screwed by Three Floyds

 

If no one intentionally sorted those bags that way, then yes, it was completely random.

Don't get random confused with shuffled. I don't think there's a safe way to put a bunch of Dark Lord bottles into a BINGO ball roller.

 

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I want that technology though

 

No not you, but your post reminded me of the other one I saw

 

JEG?

 

Noah. I've gotten some decent deals from him, but he's generally regarded as a profiteer. Jeg was a good guess though, cut from the same cloth. My first DLD years ago I joked in line about reselling the beer and was humbled by some veterans that explained beer karma. they were right and I owe them a beer.

 

Not everything he has sold is crazy overpriced, obviously he is making sales or he wouldn't keep posting. My main issues with him was how he presented his sales. He would always act like it was a cellar thinning sale because he accidentally bought too much, when he was buying it all with the sole intention of reselling. He stopped doing that now, but it was just a bit deceitful IMO.

If he made a bad name for himself on a particular group he would start using sock accounts to get around that.

I saw him multiple times buy up beers that people were offering at rock bottom prices just to clear them out. When people offer these really good deals they generally want the beers to end up in the hands of someone who intends to drink them, not turn around and resell them right away. That just strikes me as taking advantage of other peoples good will.

Honestly the stuff JEG did back in the day was very tame compared to what is considered perfectly normal activity in the beer world today. These people would have been banished to Craigslist back then.

 

Greatest Teachable Lamp?

 

It wasn't random for placing beers in bags nor was it for distributing them to people and would have been impossible to do so unless they undertook some incredible procedures to do so which based on just a few anecdotes from people saying what they had in their bags, 3 Floyds did not do. Not sorting and random are not the same thing.
3 Floyds would have had to have all the bags numbered then for each bottle had a random number generator pick which bag that particular beer went in to until they ran out of beer. I cannot say whether or not they did that but based on what I and others are saying they got, I'm fairly confident they didn't do that.
For distributing to people, same thing. For each order number they would have had to have a random number generator pick which bag(s) was/were allocated the corresponding order number. My bags didn't have any discernible numbering on them and when I rolled up, they just picked whatever bags were closest to the back of the semi which was reduced my chances to near 0% of getting a bag at the back of the semi.
Would it have been sweet if they did that all that math, sure, but they didn't. In all likelihood they just emptied a case at a time and tried to pair a relatively "valuable" beer with a "less valuable" one but couldn't keep track of everything so some people got "screwed".

 

So if it wasn't random and it wasn't assigned what was the process?

 

Empty cellar, fill bags, put bags in truck, move bags from truck to cars. Fin.

 

So what were people getting during the pick-up on Sunday, especially at the end of the day? I go tomorrow (Thursday), so figure it will just be a continuation of what what ended on Sunday unless they sort through any left over bags.

 

This thread really has gone off the rails. Conspiracy theories, mathematical / probability / statistical definitions / opinions, and beer. I'm sure there's other stuff I'm missing, but it's really amazing.

3F had to get rid of a bunch of old DL to help bring in some revenue, so we bought into it not knowing what we would get. There's no way for them to make it 100% random, but they did what seems pretty reasonable IMO. Could they have mixed it up a bit better? Probably, but in the end, none of us knew what we would get. Even during the "Greatest Teachable Massacre" that occurred on Sunday, there were still people getting CTM, 'Rrari and other good things. Some people got good stuff, some people got bad stuff.

I guess all this crazy talk is helping the thread keep going until Turtledogg Day, though.

 

You win this thread.

 

I really am pleased with the experience I had in all of this. I've never been big into Dark Lord but I'm a fan now. I'm loving having some vintages to try and will definitely be getting/attending in the future.

 

lol!

A random number generator is not required for a process to be random.

 

And a random number generator isn’t truly random because of the algorithm it relies upon.

 

In essence, the FFF process was random most pure.