Darkness Day 2014 Thread

It happened this past Darkness Day too. Not only were people swiping bottles, but they were going through coolers & taking the good stuff (a buddy lost a Rare) & leaving the shelf beers. Talk about nads.

 

Yeah, this may be the same guy that I know but their table lost a number of nice bottles. Poor form indeed.

 

How is this going to work with new growler laws? For example, barrel week at Town Hall has been bottles called growlers. Surly is planning on selling growlers at the new brewery I am pretty sure. Cant they get rid of the "muni" middle man there?

 

God, your "cameo" better last 10 or so hours....

 

I'll take that bet on Surly. In the mean time, check up on Minnesota's volume limits. I'll let someone more educated than me give the exact number but Surly zoomed past the volume limit that let them sell growlers years ago.

 

The growler law has the same effect on Schells, Summit and Surly. Having the brew pub does not change the fact that they can sell growlers. A brewery can can only have one tap room license as well, and I believe they are moving that to MPLS...

Darkness is sold by BC Liquor at Surly because of this law. Surly sells the beer to BC, BC sells it to us.

The term growler is also related to a .750L, something to do with selling bottle of wine.

 

This. I didn't bother camping out last year, got lucky some friends weren't even coming close to their allotment so I got a few, but I doubt I'll get any this year. Getting to rich for my blood.

 

I heard from Todd that Surly will never sell growlers again. Why are you "pretty sure" they are planning on selling growlers?

 

I've been aware of this for a while, but haven't ever heard a decent explanation as to why. Why does anyone care if Surly or Summit sell growlers, or allow them to have a taproom only if they remain a certain size?

While I think there is a laundry list of ridiculous laws in this state, I don't even understand what the opposition is.

 

If memory serves me, the reason they put a barrelage cap on breweries who could have taproom is that there were groups throughout the state (I can't remember who) that were afraid that the big three (BMC) would come in and open their own taprooms.

 

Per usual, the answer is that the lovely 3 tier system and liquor lobby wants the distributors to get their slice of the pie.

 

I finally get to attend. The girlfriends birthday is always Darkness Day weekend, but, this year she has agreed to go. I've never been able to tell her, "I love you, but, I've Chosen Beer."

 

Well, according to the Teamsters http://www.startribune.com/local/255429551.html

Which basically boils down to "We like our money, so stop trying to change our money, or we'll change your money."

 

Yeah, I know the teamsters got involved to stop growler sales on Sundays, but this arbitrary 3,500 barrel production limit from 2003 seems to be no different than liking your finger and sticking it in the air to guide you. I guess I didn't/don't think the size of a brewery in regards to growler sales should matter to the MLBA.

Not that it matters to anyone else, but I'm one who prefers the same rules for everyone - let Steel Toe, Surly, Summit and hell even BMC's sell growlers if they want. Let business offer the services and products they want and have the consumer decide.

I am completely aware of the fact I wouldn't last a day as a politician - I'd tell someone to go F themselves on day one.

 

Just saying that would be better than the F-ing we typically get from the govt.

 

IIRC the 3500 barrel cap is the same cap on brewpubs. So it was basically a "If you want to get bigger than a brewpub you can, but then you stop getting their perk of selling growlers."

 

The cap was changed to 20,000 barrels last year. Not that it makes any difference to Surly (they're above new cap too).

If they hadn't done that, Indeed and Fulton probably wouldn't still be selling growlers, since I think both are above the old cap at this point.