Darkness @ Heritage Liquors

Discussion in 'Midwest' started by PlethoraOfPalette, Jan 23, 2013.

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  1. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (606) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I wish I had one for you. I got skunked
     
  2. incutrav

    incutrav Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2007 Minnesota

    Cellars in Woodlbury has a few cases of Darkness as well. Apparently they also had this Black Note people speak of, but its gone
     
  3. KWMiles

    KWMiles Initiate (0) Oct 23, 2012 Minnesota

    They had to get rid of Darkness bottles to make room for Pentagram in the warehouse.
     
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  4. MNPikey

    MNPikey Devotee (401) Feb 27, 2011 Minnesota
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    Any around? I tried a few places today and no luck. Was told at a well known Mpls store that Surly was offering it to required a case of Smoke be purchased for each one of Darkness. Guess Smoke isn't selling well this year?
     
  5. mothman

    mothman Poo-Bah (5,289) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    they should put smoke in cans and price it like furious or bender. I would buy it much more often.

    they should put darkness in cans too. and price is like bells or founders. yeah, that would be cool.
     
  6. MNPikey

    MNPikey Devotee (401) Feb 27, 2011 Minnesota
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    After making several trips to Hudson this year for Ten Fidy I agree.
     
  7. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    and 750s of bourbon barrel darkness.

    however, this would then eliminate the magic of Darkness Day, which would be a bummer.
     
  8. mothman

    mothman Poo-Bah (5,289) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    Darkness in cans on darkness day. 6 packs for everyone!
     
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  9. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    or maybe a different imp stout in a can seperate from darkness.
     
  10. runfoodrun

    runfoodrun Aspirant (229) Jun 18, 2008 Minnesota

    I very much enjoyed Worthy Adversary, but it's no Darkness. Not even Stone RIS or Expo stout. Or Abyss. It's good but not worth mention with the best, locally available RIS, IMHO. It would be great if it was more cost efficient to be sure!
     
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  11. chrisp450

    chrisp450 Disciple (305) Oct 23, 2012 Minnesota
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    Completely agree. Not bad, but not in the same league.
     
  12. adamcarlson28

    adamcarlson28 Aspirant (273) Oct 11, 2012 Wisconsin
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    I also saw the two lonely bottom shelf bottles at MGM, took those two beautiful Darkness off the shelf and 4-Deschutes Hop Henge @$5 each
     
  13. adamcarlson28

    adamcarlson28 Aspirant (273) Oct 11, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Idk if its still there but haskells near Nicollet mall had some on Saturday...no limit. All in all I walked away with 9 bottles of Darkness this weekend on my visit from Wisco...sorry MN, come and take all the New Glarus you want. Also was talking with the beer buyer at France 44 he said feb 6th they were releasing darkness, black note and others.
     
  14. gatornation

    gatornation Poo-Bah (2,933) Apr 18, 2007 Minnesota
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    i want Bandwagon in cans too as long as were on the subject
     
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  15. Revenant

    Revenant Initiate (0) Aug 8, 2012 Minnesota

    No need to be sorry. It's like the towel boy apologizing for bangin the cheerleader after the entire football team already ran through her :D
     
  16. BeerBuyerBill

    BeerBuyerBill Initiate (171) Jul 23, 2012 Minnesota
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    F44 is Sat Feb 16th, not the 6th.
     
  17. adamcarlson28

    adamcarlson28 Aspirant (273) Oct 11, 2012 Wisconsin
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    Oops sorry, shoddy memory not trying to give bad info
     
  18. pmccallum86

    pmccallum86 Zealot (504) Apr 7, 2009 Minnesota
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    I think you're missing the point; the point is that worthy adversary likely costs the same or more to produce as darkness, so why the huge price discrepancy?
     
  19. pmccallum86

    pmccallum86 Zealot (504) Apr 7, 2009 Minnesota
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    Bourbon Barrel Darkness Day!
     
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  20. chrisp450

    chrisp450 Disciple (305) Oct 23, 2012 Minnesota
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    Demand sir. Demand.
     
  21. pmccallum86

    pmccallum86 Zealot (504) Apr 7, 2009 Minnesota
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    You're right there, but as supply increases, as it does every year, the price will have to come down eventually. How much do you think it costs to make a bottle of darkness, $5?
     
  22. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    BB Darkness < Darkness
     
  23. copslovebeer

    copslovebeer Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2012 Minnesota
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    Its not what it costs to make, its worth whatever the consumer wants to pay to enjoy. Ill be buying the hell out of it every time I see it. 18 bucks is a more than reasonable price for a beer like darkness. Just dont tell my wife how many I bought please.

    and FWIW, Worthy Adversary is an amazing beer. But the two cannot be compared.
     
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  24. mothman

    mothman Poo-Bah (5,289) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    Oak Aged Worthy Adversary. That's all I am gonna say.
     
  25. copslovebeer

    copslovebeer Initiate (0) Mar 26, 2012 Minnesota
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    Is this only brewery available or something they will release in bottles?
     
  26. mothman

    mothman Poo-Bah (5,289) Jun 21, 2007 Minnesota
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    I think they had two casks of it last year. I had it at the muddy pig. It was incredible.
     
  27. runfoodrun

    runfoodrun Aspirant (229) Jun 18, 2008 Minnesota

    I understand where u are coming from now. I think the reality is that certain items, beer or otherwise, that are superior to, or are perceived as being superior to similar items will be priced higher regardless of cost to produce. This is true wirh cars, clothing, etc. Certain brands can charge more per product, and Surly's brand currently has more name value than Fulton.

    That said I still think Darkness is on a different level than WA and will happily pay more for it. I do wish they made enough quantity to drive the prices down to Stone RIS prices, but I doubt that will happwn
     
  28. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota

    As good as Stone IRS is, I bet Darkness costs more.
     
  29. pmccallum86

    pmccallum86 Zealot (504) Apr 7, 2009 Minnesota
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    You are likely right due to the economies of scale Stone enjoys.
     
  30. pmccallum86

    pmccallum86 Zealot (504) Apr 7, 2009 Minnesota
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    So I think we can agree Darkness is a great beer. I think we can also agree a lot of the demand is due to the rarity or perceived rarity. Once Surly starts producing more (as they do every year) the rarity fades, as does the willingness of the average consumer to pay a much larger amount than they do for equivalent beers. Once this occurs, Surly is faced with 2 choices; lower the price or produce less beer.
     
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  31. Curt1

    Curt1 Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2010 Minnesota
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    Or start distributing to other states
     
  32. DBijnagte

    DBijnagte Initiate (106) Dec 7, 2012 Minnesota
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    Just saw 3 bottles of Darkness at Surdyk's @ $26.99, right next to the $17.99 Smoke.
     
  33. yamar68

    yamar68 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2011 Minnesota

    Jim Surdyk can go ahead and choke on my balls.
     
  34. accordselux

    accordselux Aspirant (238) Nov 26, 2007 Minnesota
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    Only if they're French.
     
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  35. RKPStogie

    RKPStogie Initiate (0) Nov 4, 2011 Minnesota
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    I completely agree with you. Jimmy S does have people watching BA. I've been scolded before for my comments about his business practices...
     
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  36. lonewolfcry

    lonewolfcry Zealot (560) Dec 7, 2007 Minnesota
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    Yeah, I saw it for $25.99 and told them that was ridiculous.
    They told me they paid a ridiculous price from their distributor.

    I left it at that, seeing on how they did call me in for Black Note - can't bite the hand that feeds you now.
    I may even go back and buy it in a month, if it's still there, just to keep the relationship I got with them.
     
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