De Garde Trades

This feels similar to the Bruery thread where some people expect to get $4$ for their Bruery beers and others won't trade $4$ for them because they feel they are too expensive. Trading $4$ with limited/brewery only releases is a good guideline but how many other beers are there under $10 that fit limited/brewery only AND quality beer? Hopefully anyone trading some of the De Garde stuff (on both ends) recognizes the dilemma and makes sure the other side is satisfied with what the trade is when all is said and done.

 

Totally agree...I think you should be able to land some of those wants you listed w/ De Garde...Now hopefully this doesn't turn into the millionth thread about the Bruery going $4$...

 

Sorry!

 

In the other thread you make a comparison to HF and miles from.cities. milage isn't the issue in Vermont, or in NE. For that matter. As I said in another thread, driving 100 miles in Vermont may take 2 and a half hours.

These aren't highway out west miles you're talking about. Maybe degarde is just as inaccessible as HF. I don't know. But computing mileage is ridiculous when talking about the northeast

 

I was hoping someone would start a thread about this topic that could do so much more eloquently than I could.

I feel like this is one of the VERY few perfect storms of quality/availability/cost.

After trading a few bottles of de Garde when I first got into this aspect of the hobby. Having had a chance to try offerings from a ton of breweries, I realized that I'd much rather drink them myself or share with friends. There are only two people that I send bottles to on a regular basis. (You guys know who you are.) And both of these individuals live geographically close to a couple/three of my other favorite breweries. (Hill Farmstead, Tired Hands and Jester King.) These guys always go out of their way to grab stuff for me when it comes out so I happily return the favor. And both of these guys have said at least once, "dude, it's not fair that you have access to beer that good for that price point." Unless I'm getting something in return from one of the above listed breweries, or on occasion Side Project/SARA/Cantillon, I'm just not trading them. I enjoy them too much.

One of the MANY nice things about having long term trading partners is that, after a while, you stop caring about $4$ and just hook each other up.

I totally agree with all your points in this thread and the one you referenced. In de Garde's case, bottle limit is irrelevant. You can't tell me that if Arthur/Anna was a 400 bottle count/limit 12, most people would be trading three of them for Cascade, The Bruery or a lot of other higher priced bottles. I also should note that nowhere in that thread did the OP specify $4$ or otherwise. Which is why I assumed you posed the question in the first place.

This isn't mean to start a huge hubub. These are just my feelings on the topic. If someone else wants to trade three fruited bu's for a BT or CR, by all means, have at it. If both people are happy, it's all gravy.

Cheers.

 

I don't think $4$ is necessary when talking about the core of a trade. So maybe you find a BAer that would do 2 Degarde for a Bruery beer I still think it would be cool to make up the cost difference with other PNW goodies for the difference.

I've never had a De Garde beer so my opinion is probably worthless but if you have 3 De Garde's for trade I would try for a Token with it because that beer blew my mind and it will never be made again. Just my .02.

 

Boston is closer to to HF than Seattle is to degarde.

Your words not mine. Once again, there is no easy travel distance in vt.

No need to argue but the analysis is ridiculous

 

Both are incorrect. You should have messaged the trader and seen what he wanted to work out. Fwiw I've traded HFS stuff to him before and he's completely reasonable and understands the whole $4$ vs rarity thing.

Instead you both posted in his thread (which made you look cheap) and then came over to this forum and posted here (which made you look like you don't know what you're doing)

Yes, the low bottle counts on your DeGarde bottles should negate some of the $4$ cost (personally I'd start with 2 bu bottles per bruery bottle, you win on cost, they win on volume and rarity, both are likely happy depending on each person's taste) just try not to be a dick about it

 

Here's my opinion on $4$: it's a pretty nice idea. I try to hit the ballpark when we're not talking about super-rare-desireable beers where that all goes out the window. But, here's the big caveat: if I'm trading a $10 200-bottle release for a $20 200-bottle release, I'm not going to make up the difference in another $10 200-bottle release. That makes no sense. You get one similarly rare beer, and some limited-ish good stuff to balance it out. If someone doesn't like that, I don't trade with them.

 

it's all good. If I came across harsh,, apologies.

What can I say I'm a new Yawker and I drink too much cawfee.

 

I think its kinda of crazy to suggest that limits don't matter.

If I am only able to get 1 or 2 bottles of a release, those bottles hold much more personal value than if I was able to get an entire case of a release. 1 or 2 bottles you might keep or only trade for exceptional offers, a case you can do with as you please.

 

It's a combination of bottle #'s and limits. Limits certainly matter in terms of if people are going to trade bottles or keep them for personal consumption. Since you brought up Token I will use that as an example because there are really two points of supply in beer trading. Supply to the people who bought the bottles and then supply to the secondary market for trading. Bottle limits certainly have an impact on the secondary market. If everyone who had gotten Token had say 10 bottles of it, many more would likely be available for trade. Seeing as how it was a one bottle limit, many people probably aren't willing to trade their only bottle thus drastically cuttiing down the supply available in the trading market.

 

demand = f(limit) in many cases.