December TABC Approvals

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by aschwab, Dec 4, 2015.

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  1. aschwab

    aschwab Zealot (501) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    Yup...you know with the whole Funkwerks, New Holland, Alesmith, Ninkasi thing going on up there, I don't see how you can complain.
     
  2. sethsticles

    sethsticles Disciple (342) May 6, 2014 California

    And Epic for a little while.
     
  3. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    By no means complaining, just seems like the DFW area frequently gets passed over. In all fairness, I moved here from NorCal, so my pedigree is a bit skewed. I will give Texas big props on the fantastic growing local Texas beer scene and it does appear that TABC is starting to realize the financial opportunities by allowing more "other 49 state" beers to be imported in. Keep 'em coming!!!!
     
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  4. aschwab

    aschwab Zealot (501) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    I am honestly curious what beers are passing over DFW that are in other cities (other than Sweetwater right now)?

    Breweries coming in have nothing to do with the TABC and financial gains. The TABC does not bring the breweries in, the breweries/distributors do and just have to deal with the TABC for approvals. They have not changed anything recently to make it easier for out of state breweries to come in.
     
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  5. sethsticles

    sethsticles Disciple (342) May 6, 2014 California

    Freetail :slight_frown:
     
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  6. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    TABC approves it, which is a tax/$$$ generator for the state. Yes, the breweries/distributors have to submit for import, but TABC/State of Texas still has a financial gain by allowing more product in. Granted, the supply and demand are both higher than 10-15 years ago.

    Either way, pass the dolce from the left hand side....
     
  7. TX-Badger

    TX-Badger Poo-Bah (2,698) Jun 14, 2012 Texas
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    I'd be interested in a list of breweries that have passed over TEXAS because of all the imbecilic, insensate, non-intelligent, brainless, foolish, ludicrous, senseless, naive, shortsighted, trivial, irrelevant, and archaic TABC nonsense.
     
  8. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    Can we start with; liquor stores are closed on Sunday and can't buy beer until noon on Sunday?? Seriously folks, please explain to me how these laws helping society.
     
  9. Dogleg

    Dogleg Devotee (487) Apr 4, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    Can't go to church if you're too drunk to drive at 10 am.
     
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  10. TTUJohn

    TTUJohn Initiate (164) Nov 13, 2012 Texas

    They don't really benefit anybody, but these are way down the list as far as TABC regulations that should be changed. More of a minor inconvenience than something that actively keeps breweries from doing business in state.
     
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  11. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    All in favor sit down!!! Heck, some church's sever alcohol...do the math!

    I guess I look at the Sunday closure as much more than an inconvenience. As for liquor stores, it is a loss of 14% of the week for sales and revenue. I think it should be up to the individual store if they want to be open, but why should the state mandate a day of closure. Back to tax/revenue generation, seems like more is better and potential for an additional 14% is better right? ...I don't get it.
     
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  12. Dogleg

    Dogleg Devotee (487) Apr 4, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    The blue laws will likely never change in Texas; way too many baptists (ducks).
     
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  13. pwsoldier

    pwsoldier Devotee (469) Apr 26, 2007 Minnesota

    I know the change in label laws a few years ago swung the door wide open for a lot of out-of-state breweries. Prior to that, many breweries would have had to create a separate set of labels exclusively for TX (and a few did), which is both a logistical pain and an additional expense. I think the main roadblock now is licensing fees, but I don't see that going away anytime soon (Hey Texas government, could you possibly NOT make money off of incoming breweries? kthxbai). Overall, the number of new breweries coming into the state has been staggering since the label law changed. It seems most breweries in other states are seeing the value of selling beer in TX, and realizing that the benefit outweighs the cost of licensing fees. At this point, if anything is holding breweries back, it's production capacity (our market is huge compared to most states), not TABC. I'm sure that's why Yuengling chose Mississippi over Texas in their most recent distribution expansion, though I'm sure they'll make it here eventually.
     
  14. Techichi

    Techichi Zealot (505) Sep 25, 2012 Texas

    I seriously doubt that. Things are changing way too fast.
     
  15. jamescain

    jamescain Champion (858) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Oddly enough the small liquor stores are in favor of staying closed on Sundays. It's an inconvenience, but there are other things in Texas that should be changed first. You can at least still buy beer on Sunday, you just have to wait until noon and not from a liquor store.
     
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  16. aschwab

    aschwab Zealot (501) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    This is one of those laws that really does not bother me at all. I would like to see it gone, but I think in the last 10 years, it has factored in maybe twice? for me.
     
  17. donspublic

    donspublic Poo-Bah (1,932) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Agreed, only when cooking and realize I need a liquor that doesn't exist in my cabinet. Which is usually brandy, so now I have like 4 bottles in my cabinet
     
  18. NDogg44

    NDogg44 Initiate (126) Oct 21, 2015 Texas
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    I don't have a problem with it at all - everyone that drinks just plans around that and it really isn't that big of a deal.
     
  19. Can_has_beer

    Can_has_beer Savant (927) May 14, 2013 Texas

    There is not a 14% loss in revenue for liquor stores at all. You can't buy liquor at a grocery store, so if you need it, you have to get it at the liquor store. Basically the liquor store being closed one day just means more sales will occur the day before, or the day after. The liquor store actually saves money because they don't have to pay wages one day of the week.
     
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  20. jkn09

    jkn09 Aspirant (275) Oct 17, 2012 Texas

    The "no beer sales until noon on Sunday" law has affected me a grand total of 1 time. I waited all morning at Franklin BBQ and really wanted to try JK Figlet on tap, but I was only 4th in line and got my food by 11:15, on a Sunday. The firstiest of all first world problems.
     
  21. Dogleg

    Dogleg Devotee (487) Apr 4, 2014 Pennsylvania
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    You should have been fine; restaurants/bars can serve beer before noon on Sunday with a food purchase if I remember correctly.
     
  22. blastoderm55

    blastoderm55 Disciple (342) Jun 7, 2013 Texas
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    Yes, so long as you are eating, you can drink before noon.
     
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  23. jamescain

    jamescain Champion (858) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Did you ask them or assume they couldn't sell it?
     
  24. SmellyPete

    SmellyPete Initiate (0) Dec 23, 2014 Texas

    i'm guessing you feel that way a lot.
     
  25. jkn09

    jkn09 Aspirant (275) Oct 17, 2012 Texas

    Assumed. It was so crazy in there I didn't even ask when I thought about it. In retrospect, I obviously should have, but I didn't see anyone else drinking.
     
  26. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    Wow, a bit unnecessary huh? relax, drink a beer....
     
  27. Can_has_beer

    Can_has_beer Savant (927) May 14, 2013 Texas

    We haven't seen approval for Prairie Coffee Okie have we? Did I miss that?
     
  28. bradleydavid5

    bradleydavid5 Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2014 Texas

    Haven't seen it around yet, but I don't think i've seen approval either. Annoying.
     
  29. pushstartnow13

    pushstartnow13 Initiate (0) Nov 28, 2011 Texas

    2 quick things....coffee okie has not been picked up yet but very soon.
    Second...if liquor stores want sunday sales ( which most don't, added expenses) grocery stores will want liquor sales, it is a delicate balance
     
  30. donspublic

    donspublic Poo-Bah (1,932) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    Ok didn't know it hadn't made it here. Was in Tulsa when the store employee opened the box and I got one, could have brought some back with me. Sorry....
     
  31. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    Great idea, allow grocery stores to sell liquor and sell it on sundays...why not? Many other states have that retail structure, and the sky hasn't fallen yet...
     
  32. NDogg44

    NDogg44 Initiate (126) Oct 21, 2015 Texas
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    Technically, grocery stores can sell liquor now. They can't sell it on Sundays, so they would have to commit retail space to a product that they can't sell during that time. It would be a nightmare to deal with the fact that the store would have to lock up that area one day a week.
     
  33. aschwab

    aschwab Zealot (501) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    Grocery stores can't sell liquor now. And in states that they can and have similar laws, they just put it in a section that they can easily close off.
     
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  34. NDogg44

    NDogg44 Initiate (126) Oct 21, 2015 Texas
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    Looks like I was misinformed by my Market Street beer guy. Thanks for the info.
     
  35. aschwab

    aschwab Zealot (501) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    http://www.craftbeeraustin.com/tabc-label-and-brewery-approvals-december-26-2015/

    903 Brewers – Balcones Barrel Aged Sasquatch Ale (B)
    Abita – Bayou Bootlegger Hard Root Beer (b)
    Ballast Point – Peanut Butter Cup Victory at Sea (K)
    Ballast Point – Mango Even Keel Session Ale (b, K)
    Branchline – Dark Territory Oatmeal Stout (c)
    Collective Brewing – Belwegian (K)
    Collective Brewing – Apricot Petite Golden Sour (K)
    Collective Brewing – Funkytown Gra (K)
    Collective Brewing – Petite Golden (K)
    Fish Tale – Family Wagon Imperial IPA (B)
    Goose Island – Goose Experimental Ale Winter (K)
    Hanssens Artisanaal – Oude Kriek (b, B, K)
    Hanssens Artisanaal – Lambic Experimental Cassis (b, K)
    Hanssens Artisanaal – Lambic Experimental Raspberry (b, K)
    Hanssens Artisanaal – Scarenbecca Kriek (b, K)
    Hanssens Artisanaal – Oude Gueuze (b, B, K)
    Karbach – Kentucky Habit Belgian Style Quad (B)
    Left Hand – Hard Wired Coffee Porter (b, K)
    Maui Brewing – Hopkine IPA Lager (c)
    Pyramid – Hopfen Spring Pale Ale (b, B, K)
    Pyramid – Session IPA Bright Hoppy (b, K)
    Pyramid – Golden Rye Bock Malty Spicy (b, K)
    Save the World – Gladius Belgian Style Dubbel (K)
    Smuttynose – Frankenlager (B, K)
    Sweetwater – IPA (b, K)
    Texas Ale Project – The Caucasian Ale (K)
    Texas Beer Refinery – Wet Kitty (K)
    Texas Beer Refinery – Mint Chocolate Stout (K)
    Wild Acre – Billy Jenkins Session Bock (c, K)
    Zilker – Honey Blonde (K)

    Brewery Approvals:

    (For TX breweries: B = Brewery, BP = Brewpub)

    Bakfish Brewing – Houston (BP)
    Dej Buh Stesti – Lovelady (B)
     
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  36. 06Rubicon

    06Rubicon Initiate (37) Nov 8, 2013 Texas
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    WHOA....903 Brewers – Balcones Barrel Aged Sasquatch Ale...there just may be a god!!!! Gimme Gimme Gimme
     
  37. pwsoldier

    pwsoldier Devotee (469) Apr 26, 2007 Minnesota

    MOTHERFUCKING YAAASSSSS!!!
     
  38. jamescain

    jamescain Champion (858) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Double liking this one... Already stocked up on antacids
     
  39. BlindSalimander

    BlindSalimander Initiate (150) Aug 16, 2010 Texas

    Collective Brewing – Funkytown Gra (K) - What is a Gra?

    Maui Brewing – Hopkine IPA Lager (c) - What the what?
     
  40. Heretic42

    Heretic42 Initiate (0) Aug 31, 2011 Texas

    Should be Funkytown Gratiitous T-Rex & Hop Kine India Pale Lager
     
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