Defective Bourbon County Bottles

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  1. JPJAM

    JPJAM Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2014 Arizona

  2. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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  3. cookiequiz

    cookiequiz Savant (1,119) Apr 15, 2013 California

    Just circling back: did you ever hear back about the under-filled bottle?
     
  4. CaptainRedBeerd

    CaptainRedBeerd Initiate (0) Jul 29, 2010 California

    I got several bottles of both the 13.8% and 14.4% ABV versions. They have different bottle dates. Did a taste test last night and the 13.8% drank way better/silky/flavorful/sweet/aromatic/less boozy, despite it being the bottle that looked like it wasn't stored in a clean environment. It wasn't mold, but I was definitely skeptical when I saw it. All my bottles are from San Diego area.
     
  5. pagriley

    pagriley Pooh-Bah (2,382) Oct 27, 2014 Illinois
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    Nope not yet
     
  6. denverbeerguy

    denverbeerguy Initiate (0) May 10, 2013 Colorado

    Wow guys, sounds like bottling issues vary substantially. I have not had any mold issues at all, probably because the dryer climate in Denver. I don't personally have the cracked bottles since I made the liquor stores trade me out until I got one that wasn't cracked but at least it wasn't just Denver's shipment or our distributor.
     
  7. Ericksne

    Ericksne Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Iowa

    Any way to know what ABV is in the keg that is on tap, or was that also varying ABV multiple batches too?
     
  8. Joshjv

    Joshjv Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2013 Michigan

    ..Too busy doing promos for their TV show..
     
  9. KindbrewCali

    KindbrewCali Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2013 California

    I just got a case at my store, with about half the bottles with mold...nothing outrageous but none the less, a lack of quality control. Who is ok with buying bottles cleaned off knowing this?

    For the record, SoCal and 14.4% black caps
     
  10. ArkansasTraveller

    ArkansasTraveller Initiate (0) Aug 4, 2014 Arkansas

    After further review, all 12 of my bottles have bubbles and strange little cracks. Already drank a few, and they seemed fine, although I'm a little worried about the 8 I'm going to cellar.
     
  11. SonyTantoni

    SonyTantoni Initiate (0) Dec 8, 2014 Maryland

    It must be a hard life being able to get a case of bcs. The liquor stores by me were sold out and one I heard was only selling two bottles per person. I am still looking for some unfortunately no where in Maryland seems to have any and seems the same thing for all the places I've called in pa. So feel free to send me any defective bottles I'll gladly drink them.
     
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  12. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm curious, was your case box moisture stained?
     
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  13. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    i think it could make sense if there were issues with freezing.
     
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  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I thought legally to be labeled Bourbon it had to be made with at least 50% corn and aged at least one year in new charred oak barrels. To be labeled as Ky bourbon it had to be ages at least one year in Ky.
     
  15. PseudoBen

    PseudoBen Initiate (0) Feb 14, 2014 Wisconsin

    I've got 13.8% dated oct 5/14 and 14.4% oct 6/14, just throwing another wrench in the works. all in perfect condition, btw. Same white ink caps on both.
     
  16. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    at least 51% corn. but you are right some of the other info stated in prior posts are pretty off the mark.

    A) if bourbon could only be made in Kentucky please explain the old Mitcher's distillery in PA that produced the world renown A.H. BOURBONs?? also try explaining LDI or whatever their current acronym is now??? B) far as i recall, bourbon can technically be made on the moon, so long as the recipe requirements, barrel requirement & barrel entry proofs are all correct. to be labeled "Kentucky Straight Bourbon" there are regional requirements for aging etc.
     
  17. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    There it is.

    I suppose Jack is really a Bourbon, but since it's distilled in TN it gets labeled as Tennessee Whiskey.
     
  18. Highbrow

    Highbrow Pooh-Bah (1,770) Jan 7, 2011 California
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    yep. but there is that other debate about the use of sugar maple charcoal / Lincoln Co. process used to filter Jack & Dickel.

    EDIT my prior post i meant A.H. Hirsch Bourbons (forgot the word Hirsch after A.H.)
     
  19. Buschyfor3

    Buschyfor3 Savant (1,083) Jan 4, 2009 Kentucky

    Just to clear things up (and for anyone else curious on the subject):

    For labeling as "Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whisky" - straight from the Code of Federal Regulations 5 CFR 27 Section 5.22(b)(1)(iii):

    "(iii) Whiskies conforming to the standards prescribed in paragraphs (b)(1)(i) and (ii) of this section, which have been stored in the type of oak containers prescribed, for a period of 2 years or more shall be further designated as “straight”; for example, “straight bourbon whisky”, “straight corn whisky”, and whisky conforming to the standards prescribed in paragraph (b)(1)(i) of this section, except that it was produced from a fermented mash of less than 51 percent of any one type of grain, and stored for a period of 2 years or more in charred new oak containers shall be designated merely as “straight whisky”. No other whiskies may be designated “straight”. “Straight whisky” includes mixtures of straight whiskies of the same type produced in the same State."
    http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-id...abb0d841e&node=pt27.1.5&rgn=div5#se27.1.5_122



    As for the Kentucky-only part... he was referring to a Kentucky Revised Statute that has limitations on the kinds of whisky that can be bottled in KY as well as labeling restrictions - KRS 244.370

    "No whiskey produced in Kentucky, except whiskey the barrel containing which is branded "Corn Whiskey" under the internal revenue laws, shall be bottled in Kentucky or removed from this state unless such whiskey has been aged in oak barrels for a period of not less than one (1) full year; provided, however, that whiskey aged less than one (1) year may be removed from the state and bottled, or bottled in Kentucky, if the word "Kentucky" or any word or phrase implying Kentucky origin does not appear on the front label or elsewhere on the retail container or package except in the name and address of the distiller as required by federal regulation."
    http://www.lrc.ky.gov/statutes/statute.aspx?id=11476
     
  20. KindbrewCali

    KindbrewCali Initiate (0) Aug 14, 2013 California

    box seemed in good shape, one of of the first things I looked for. Im guessing someone stacked palettes too high, cracked some botlles from the pressure, and the high sugar content on the cases below created the mold. None the les, they replaced it immediately, and claim to still have over 100 cases in their warehouse, so itll be back my guess Migration week in April
     
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