Delayed hangovers

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  1. tasterschoice62

    tasterschoice62 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,949) May 14, 2014 Rhode Island
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    Wow theres alot of feistiness going on here, not sure why. For me excercise. I will do cardio for probably like an hour and sweat alot with lots of re-hydration
    Whether I feel good or not I force myself. That being said alcohol metabolizes at the same rate no matter what you do. You could actually have it in your system when you work out. Helps me though.
     
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  2. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    deleted_user_1007501 Initiate (0) Jun 30, 2015

    You’re spot on everything right here. Time, baby. That’s the only real cure.

    I always go for pedialyte along with a shitload of regular water just to get my organs something to heal with. It doesn’t cure it, but your body will at least feel marginally better.

    I am an avid runner, and I’ve had horrendous hangovers where the running didn’t help, or even made it worse. But for minor ones it works tremendously, just getting those endorphins flowing can take your mind off of almost anything.

    @nc41 you are definitely not alone. I’ve had times like yours many times. And I’m in my mid-20s. Of course sometimes it’s riding on the coat-tails from the night before, other times it’s just out of nowhere from a few beers with dinner.

    The human body and mind are astounding...
     
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  4. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Absolutely agree, there’s some fun night where I might expect a rough morning, but not. Other times a few beers and a rough morning. I’d expect drinking a bit more water in my case might help immensely. Thanks for the input.
     
  5. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    They also have packets for a hangover cure on the go!

    Just add the packet to water and mix.

    I can't remember if I've tried Drip Drop or not. But I've also heard it's awesome.

    It certainly sounds legit.

    "DripDrop wasn’t invented by a beverage company. Or a pharmaceutical company. Or any company for that matter. It was invented on a relief mission by a doctor treating life-threatening cases of dehydration. When he saw how quickly patients recovered, without the use of an IV, he thought…why shouldn’t everyone have this?"
     
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  6. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Something to consider is that alcohol is known to strip minerals, especially magnesium (of which more than 3/4s of us are already deficient). So taking a magnesium supplement regularly, and especially when drinking heavily, can help a lot. Magnesium is a critical element in a ton of metabolic processes.
    But ya, also hydration is huge and sounds like you missed the boat on that one.
     
  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Well it helps with hydration, magnesium is an electrolyte.

    If you have a well balanced diet, you're probably getting enough. I take 500 mg a day though just to cover my bases. Also if you're on a low carb diet the diet will often (and should) call for you to supplement with electrolytes (lite salt which has potassium/sodium, calcium, and magnesium).

    Just make sure you're taking magnesium citrate, as magnesium oxide is poorly absorbed by the body.

    More often than not you'll see magnesium oxide at your local stores, so just double check.


    If you want to experience a truly hellish hangover, go on a low carb diet for a week and then get hammered.
     
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  8. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    A quick google search tells me that Magnesium (both citrate and oxide) is used as a laxative so its sounds like the hydration can go both ways if one isn't careful :flushed:
     
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  9. Dandrewjohn

    Dandrewjohn Zealot (599) Apr 13, 2013 Texas

    Of course it depends on the individual, but metabolism occurs in a set order, with fermentation products being broken down in a known sequence. Certain of these metabolites cause the deleterious effects known as a hangover. Depending on how much you've consumed and how fast or slow your body processes these compounds will dictate when you experience the onset of your symptoms. In other words, it's a series of steps that can't be altered, and your system is just doing its job regardless of how much or little you've had. If you've had too much, the buildup of these metabolites will cause your symptoms. Solution: drink less.
     
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  10. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Yup, it most certainly is. You'll see magnesium in liquid form at the pharmacy at your local CVS, and it's used for this purpose. Just take the necessary amount for nutrition, I wouldn't go pounding magnesium.

    Of course, any new supplement you take should be reviewed with your doctor too.

    Magneisum can also help you fall asleep.
     
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  11. meefmoff

    meefmoff Pooh-Bah (1,922) Jul 6, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I appreciate you appending some useful information to my diarrhea joke.
     
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  12. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    Unfortunately even with a well balanced diet (unless you are working very hard to source very intentionally raised produce/meats) you are probably not getting enough magnesium today. Our soils have become fairly well depleted and most produce doesn't contain the mineral content it once did.
    As for magnesium type, the best one that I've found is dimagnesium malate. It's several times more absorbable that even the citrate. And I agree, don't waste money on the mag oxide.

    If people are interested I've been super happy with the magnesium from Jigsaw Health. Developed by a doctor who concluded that many of the chronic conditions he saw in his practice were related to mineral (and especially magnesium) deficiency.
     
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  13. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    Diarrhea's no joke.

    How expensive is the dimagnesium malate? Citrate's worked just fine for me (regarding staying more hydrated when eating a low carb diet).

    Does he have studies to confirm these conclusions? I'm always hesitant when I hear about a doctor's claims for his/her own product. That really goes for almost any supplement, as most of them are garbage.
     
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  14. Beer_Stan

    Beer_Stan Initiate (0) Mar 15, 2014 California
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    Were you by chance in a Jacuzzi or Sauna at all?
     
  15. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    A 60 day supply costs $40, less if you buy more than that at a time.
    And I checked their website to see if they had any studies posted there and realized that I appear to have invented their origin story. According to their website they are founded by a tech entrapeneur who found alleviation from his own chronic symptoms in magnesium. In any case, people should try things for themselves and find what works, and everyone who is interested in trying magnesium supplements should know to avoid the oxide that is super common and essentially useless.
     
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  16. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    If nothing else perhaps with hot weather fest season here others will take better precautions than I did. Drink water in between beers seems to be a key, I did eat well at dinner, but I didn’t eat breakfast I had only coffee, big problem there, I didn’t start to feel bad until I had the coffee by itself . I was at the pool and I’m always aware of the heat and sun. I don’t do beer fests because I hate the heat unless I’m at the pool or beach, so there’s things you can do to protect yourself.
    No, just the pool.
     
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  17. BamaScott

    BamaScott Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2018 Alabama

    Lord I do. Some of the worst hangovers I've ever had were after a 6 pack of something like Paulaner, Sam Adams, etc. Well, to be specific, not a hangover with nausea and all...more like the worst headache imaginable in the back of my head/down into the back of my neck.
     
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  18. eppCOS

    eppCOS Grand Pooh-Bah (4,570) Jun 27, 2015 Colorado
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    I'm not that kind of a Doctor, but the more I read about these symptoms, I think it reads like classic beer manopause syndrome. The longing, the recovery time, the hot flashes. CLASSIC.
    :wink:
     
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  19. Shanex

    Shanex Grand Pooh-Bah (4,960) Dec 10, 2015 France
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    It happened to me to quite a while back with stuff like strong Wildcat, Molson from Canada. Mind you, I was drinking heavily then ... I learned to drink water during those sessions and quit the binge-drinking later on.
     
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