Disabling Beer Karma

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Jul 16, 2016.

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  1. WesMantooth

    WesMantooth Grand Pooh-Bah (4,844) Jan 8, 2014 Ohio
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    I will disagree with the NBS forum exclusion. The entire intent of the thread is to promote the first item in what you have outlined.

    Really like the idea for rewarding updates to existing entries
    ( place info, duplicate listings, beer availability, etc. )
     
  2. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    Love the idea of negative Karma, ThatsThatGuy might just capsize on that one.

    Since it seems to be a pretty consistent theme (especially regarding WBAYDN) why not just do away with Karma for likes, unless it's for pretty large milestones? It won't prevent me, and I'm sure many others that actually love to share, from continuing to post in those threads, though.
     
  3. John_Beeryman

    John_Beeryman Initiate (0) Jul 19, 2014 Virginia

    I liked the system as it was. Whatever system is put in place, if one is, I hope we don't all have to start over from zero.
     
  4. Sabtos

    Sabtos Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,920) Dec 15, 2015 Ohio
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    You know I think this is a very important given we may all be taking for granted, as I haven't noticed anyone really mention this until now.

    How many BAs for ensuring we can remain at the level we left off at before the system was taken down?
     
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  5. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Good call on Events, totally blanked on that...

    Events
    Add an Event
     
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  6. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    If a new system comes to play, everyone would be awarded Beer Karma according to their current contributions. This is how it's worked with the numerous iterations of Beer Karma over the years, and starting at zero was never considered as it makes zero sense.
     
  7. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Personally I was trying to entice people to answer content style questions in the forum vs. the virtual pub type comments (not that they don't have their place). Perhaps the Likes need to be evaluated more on a milestone level than on each individual one... Would love to see extra credit for folks that create and maintain the threads on certain areas.
     
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  8. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    Agreed - perhaps not points for each individual likes but at certain milestones.
     
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  9. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I think of this as a hybrid between the system in place pre-crash and the most recent system (in both cases, the karma points were computed on the entirety of users contributions to the site but when the new system came into place, people might not be at the same level as before or others may have moved ahead based on the weighting of the different contributions.
     
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  10. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I'd vote to keep BK points for likes, even in NBS. You could make WBAYDN count for less I suppose, as one might argue that giving points for those likes may encourage people to drink more than they should just to get BK points - I'll bet that has happened. Reward the behavior you want. Trading should get you the banner, but I'd have to be convinced that it merits BK points.
     
  11. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Give more weight to written posts than likes, but reward milestones in both.
     
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  12. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    IDK Trading is Advocacy ive meet many BA'S in IP trade's that are great people.I think it promotes advocacy and conversation in sharing what we like on this site.
     
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  13. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    NBS is COOL! it promotes written reviews, WBAYDN and Pics of Beer haul threads not so much.. likes on these last 2 well make those threads just for fun because they are entertaining but dont add so much content to the site again they are fun and have there place.
     
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  14. dbrauneis

    dbrauneis Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,071) Dec 8, 2007 North Carolina
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    I have no opinion on whether or not the threads in question are cool or not cool... They are (and are likely) to become "like" bait for people trying to get certain levels of Beer Karma in my opinion.
     
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  15. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Maybe cool was the wrong word. I meant that (NBS) promotes written reviews.
     
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  16. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    I compose the review text as my NBS post (or my WBAYDN post if it's not Sunday) then copy and paste most of it into my review. I see others do the review and then put a link into their NBS post. My way you don't have to follow a link, you can just scroll through the NBS postings. Perhaps since we can't be sure that when someone posts in NBS that they are also posting a review, likes should not count, only posting a review.
     
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  17. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    Yes...and more!
     
  18. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    I agree with WesMantooth. NBS is all about trying new beers, styles, venturing out into this awesome world of fermentations AND having vibrant discussions about the beers. It's not just posting pics.
     
  19. Harrison8

    Harrison8 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,285) Dec 6, 2015 Missouri
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    I always review within NBS as well. I thought that was the point....?

    I can see it being difficult to weigh posts with reviews versus those without. Perhaps that thread would just need site moderation and nix the posts that don't contain a worthy review.
     
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  20. microbrewlover

    microbrewlover Initiate (0) Oct 5, 2006 Pennsylvania

    I would like to see the Beer Karma system continue. It was a fun way to encourage greater participation as well as the trying and reviewing of new beers; I liked seeing the banner under my name change to a new ranking. :wink:
     
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