Discord server is now closed

Blog Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Todd, Jan 19, 2024.

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  1. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    This impacts a very small number of people (around 250 and 25 active posters), so I'm going to keep it short.

    Effective immediately, the Discord server is now closed.

    I won't dump all of my reasons why here (there are many), but it's become clear that more resources (mainly my time and effort) would need to be invested into Discord to grow it and I no longer want to support Discord as a company.

    ### Update: Here's a dump of reasons:
    • Recently laid off 17% of their workforce (and 4% last August), when they're sitting on over $700 million in cash.
    • Is valued at over $15 billion and backed by a bunch of venture capital firms that will no doubt want their returns soon; either when they go IPO or sell; like the $12 billion deal with Microsoft that they refused. I don't want to be on the platform when that happens.
    • Has become bloated and increasingly focused on monetizing its users and communities.
    • Will never allow BA to become fully discoverable (with all of the perks) as we focus on alcohol.
    • Hasn't helped to grow the BA community, and it never will. In fact, it directly competes with online communities / web-based forums like BA and every time someone posts on Discord it's one less post on BA. I'm also seeing users who only post on Discord. And some of the users who won the recent Society giveaways haven't even logged into their account for months, even years.
    • Update: apparently Discord is about to change its file hosting policy.
    ###

    So, I'm reclaiming the time and refocusing it on growing the BeerAdvocate community on BeerAdvocate vs. a third-party platform that reaps all of the benefits.

    Note:
    • Invites have been disabled.
    • Posting has been disabled and channels have been archived.
    • I won't be nuking the Discord server, but any hotlinked images should persist regardless.
    • All remaining members will be removed from the server later today.
    Thanks to everyone who signed up (1,250+) over the years, especially during the pandemic where Discord gave us a space to hangout and have some fun during our beer fests in cyberspace and beer boxes. Damn, those were fun. But it's time to move on and focus on what matters: this site, its community, and its continued growth.

    Talk to you on BeerAdvocate! :beers::heavymetal:
     
  2. Ninjahedge

    Ninjahedge Initiate (191) Oct 1, 2010 New Jersey

    *Sigh*

    I can completely understand. I was just going crazy trying to find the server so I could post a pic of my Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout!!!!

    Not looking for any reasons. You had them, I am sure (Todd, et all), it is just sad to lose one mode of contact.

    As for Discord itself... they try to charge for everything, so I am going to guess here, but I don't think that they were allowing free reign for your platform.

    If you find another medium to allow a bit more free-form discussion that has not been as corporatized, please let us all know. I was only on there a few weeks, but I already miss it!
     
  3. TheIPAHunter

    TheIPAHunter Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Aug 12, 2007 California
    Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    You can post what you're drinking any time you want in the WBAYDN thread. We look forward to seeing you. Cheers.
     
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  4. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    Here's what I posted for the Mod Team, which is what Discord was primarily for.

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    Discord...
    • Recently laid off 17% of their workforce (and 4% last August), when they're sitting on over $700 million in cash.
    • Is valued at over $15 billion and backed by a bunch of venture capital firms that will no doubt want their returns soon; either when they go IPO or sell; like the $12 billion deal with Microsoft that they refused. I don't want to be on the platform when that happens.
    • Has become bloated and increasingly focused on monetizing its users and communities.
    • Will never allow BA to become fully discoverable (with all of the perks) as we focus on alcohol.
    • Hasn't helped to grow the BA community, and it never will. In fact, it directly competes with online communities / web-based forums like BA and every time someone posts on Discord it's one less post on BA. I'm also seeing users who only post on Discord. And some of the users who won the recent Society giveaways haven't even logged into their account for months, even years.
    So, I'd rather spend my time on BeerAdvocate, its community, and its growth vs. being distracted by Discord.

    ###
     
  5. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    All good reasons. Especially your point about users who post on the site—although the giveaways got me to log on again, I’d rather just hang with all of you here.
     
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  6. Braunmeister_1943

    Braunmeister_1943 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,965) Nov 22, 2020 Pennsylvania
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    I was somewhat confused yesterday when I went to post on Discord. I liked our community there and also the ease of posting pictures there then on BA! I used to use Postimages for my BA picture posts, but I know that it can cause problems. After reading your reasons for leaving, I understand. Long Live Beer Advocate!:beers:
     
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  7. Bhubbard34

    Bhubbard34 Pooh-Bah (2,585) Mar 4, 2016 Pennsylvania
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Does this mean more time spent on a BA app? (Fingers crossed)
     
  8. WunderLlama

    WunderLlama Grand Pooh-Bah (4,820) Dec 27, 2010 Massachusetts
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    ^^^This^^^
     
  9. micada

    micada Grand Pooh-Bah (3,960) Jul 13, 2015 New York
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    All solid reasons.
     
  10. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    I'd love to launch a BA app with all of the features everyone deserves (like being able to post photos from your phone). It's one of a few major projects that I plan on pushing internally this year that focuses on growing the BA community.
     
  11. IMFletcher

    IMFletcher Pooh-Bah (2,854) May 2, 2014 Kentucky
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Good. This site is BA, not some other location.
     
  12. chrisjws

    chrisjws Grand Pooh-Bah (3,302) Dec 3, 2014 California
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I’ll miss the quick way to post in WBAYDN, but other than that I never used it
     
  13. jvgoor3786

    jvgoor3786 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,222) May 28, 2015 Arkansas
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    If I recall, I spent some time on BA's Discord during the pandemic. It always seemed duplicative to me. Then when I decided to give it another try during your recent giveaway I couldn't get my account reactivated because my MFA token was deleted from my phone. I love the decision to get rid of it. I hated hearing about people posting there but not here. Thanks for always working to make BA better, Todd. (Which reminds me, I think I'm overdue for my every-six- month whining post in the Society thread about uploading photos.:wink:)
     
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  14. elNopalero

    elNopalero Grand Pooh-Bah (5,822) Oct 14, 2009 Michigan
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    I love it!
     
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  15. tekstr1der

    tekstr1der Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Nov 27, 2014 New Hampshire
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    For shame. And to think I went 0 for 5 on the giveaways!

    Knowing my luck however, I'd previously set a calendar reminder to re-up my subscription at the end of December.

    Awesome bargain at the price of a beer to tack on another year of Society, and provide meager support for the site. Thanks Todd!
     
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  16. LesDewitt4beer

    LesDewitt4beer Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,315) Jan 25, 2021 Minnesota
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Wow. Lots of ugly "Ignore the man behind the curtain" scenes these days. Good ol' Kenny Rogers has the song "The Gambler" and two lyric lines apply here:
    You gotta know when to hold 'em
    Know when to fold 'em...

    Good move @Todd
     
  17. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
    STAFF Mod Team Society Pooh-Bah

    Ironically, I just read that apparently Discord is about to change its file hosting policy. External links to files posted on a Discord server will be accessible for 24 hours and not work after that.

    https://piunikaweb.com/2023/10/20/discord-file-hosting-ending-this-year-what-you-need-to-know/

    If that's the case, and it looks like it is, I'll be forced to block Discord soon to ensure that threads like WBAYDN aren't full of broken images the next day. Can't help previous threads/posts, but I advise anyone using Discord to host images for hotlinking on this site to find another solution.

    Good timing, I guess. :skull:

    Moving on...
     
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