I'm working out a trade, and to keep things from getting confusing (we're getting close to $100 on each end), I listed my end of the trade with pricing. I wasn't trying to be weird, just trying to make things more clear. But after sending the message, I got to thinking: is this a tacky thing to do? I'm not trying to seem focused on the monetary value, and I'm definitely not trying to take any of the fun out of the trade. What say y'all?
You lost me. However nothing wrong with transparency. Whatever it takes so the BAs involved in the trade are happy.
hell no. you're keeping it in the open. that said, i always let a trading partner know what i paid. maybe i'm tacky
If I assume the other person wouldn't know the prices, I'll often include them. Some things vary by location as well, so I have no problems if someone tells me what the paid for the beer. It's only tacky if you're going to nickel and dime over a few bucks to get the $4$ exactly even. Just get it in the ballpark, as long as you're both happy.
I hate whenever I am trying to land a double black people be like "knee deep Simtra isn't enough my bottle was $100" it's like, Nickel an Dime me to death amirite?
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No I've done it, especially if your doing multiple trade or bigger trades. You can't over communicate, and keeping track of the $4$ eliminates problems.
I see no problem with it. My two general rules are that id like to be within ten percent of the total (if im putting up 100 to his 90 ) im not going to bitch about a few bucks. And, I don't add shipping cost if retrading... Some ppl do and ive paid it if the bottles im getting are worth it but it really gets me when someone says their bomber of 10 buck beer is 20 because they had to trade for it.
Not tacky at all. If you're trying to get $4$ you have to have some idea what the dollars are. Sometimes I'm surprised at how much or how little some of the bottles cost. I agree though, you're just trying to get approximate. If someone is worried about $5 one way or the other then you're worrying too much.
$4$ is ok for shelf brews and discussing cost is fine. Cellared stuff & brewery only stuff falls into a different category in my book. Some require great effort and travel, some don't, so value can perceived quite differently. If someone travels from CT to Hillfarmstead to buy a one per person $15 bottle , I would guess that that person would only consider it $15 bottle if trading for a like quality beer with the same difficulty of degree to obtain.
Uh no. Shit costs money. Sometimes price comes into play in local trading and such but when you get higher up the rarity ladder it doesn't matter at all. Good Communication and being truthful with your trading partner is key from what I have experienced.
I'm talking about trades where $4$ isn't mentioned. Like "hey I can get you Beer X if you'd send me Beer Y off your gots." For the most part, these trades seem fairly straightforward and even. Where it gets complicated (for me) is when someone mentions other, perhaps local, beers that I'm not familiar with. If I'm interested in those, then sometimes I don't know what to offer in return. That's when I'll mention price, but just don't want to be tacky (which I'm hearing it's not). I guess what struck me about it is that I had a trade clipping right along and then it seemed totally out of place for me to start mentioning prices. Sounds like I'm over thinking it .
Since you mention it, I sometimes do worry about $5 - but only if I'm the one that shorted the trade. I was going to start a new thread, but I seem to be having a hard time figuring out extras and whatnot. Like here's a trade I just completed: Him: $40 of awesome beers from a brewery, not limited, but he picked up direct so they're super fresh $15 in nice extras (easy enough to get, but all "world class" rating) Me: $38 of great beer (one was limited release) $16 in extras Since shipping on his end was going to be a little high (28#), we agreed my extras would cover it. But then he sends extras, and that threw everything off. Not only is he a tad higher dollar-wise, but essentially I didn't send anything to cover his shipping. (Fwiw, I sent 22#, so it didn't end up being too far off.) Anyway, I know I'm being incredibly nit-picky, but I feel like spelling it out and getting some feedback is one of the only ways to learn early on. I offered to send something additional, but I wasn't sure how often this was done.
Shipping has nothing to do with it, for me. Sometimes bottle numbers and weights are off, but thats just the nature of the thing. If I'm sending 6 bottles to get 2 bottles I want, no way would I ask someone to cover that cost, being that 6 bottles is more expensive to send than 2. That just seems like pinching pennies to me. Shipping costs will not always be equal, but to me, $4$ has to do with beer, not overall costs. Should we factor in miles to the FedEx store and the cost of gas as well? (being smarmy, but you see what I'm getting at)
I think honesty is a good thing so everyone goes into it with clear expectations. Then you throw on 20-30% and blow up their porch!
Shipping is out of the equation, IMO it's even both ways he's shipping to you too. Xtra's don't count either, but I do let the guy know when I'm not going to put in xtra's, especially if I'm shipping multiple 750ml bottles, they take up a lot of space. I don't want xtra's from him if I'm not sending any, just to keep it straight up. I don't have any whales, no rare brews, but I would assume $4$ is out the window in that case.
This. It kills me when someone wants you to add for shipping. I've sent a 14lb box that cost me $17 and I've sent a 43lb box that cost me $23. Unless one side has to send multiple boxes, shipping should just be the cost of doing business.
Agreed. And just to clarify, he wasn't being uncool about it or anything (quite the opposite in fact, as he was great to trade with). It was just mentioned because he was essentially sending double the volume that I was, so we were trying to think of a way to offset some of that. Sounds like it's all just part of the nature of trading though.
