dms worry

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  1. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Pundit (754) Feb 28, 2013 Illinois
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    Brewed for the first time at the new place yesterday and the stove didn't get the wort to boiling temp, but hovered right at 210/211 the entire time. Should I be worried about dms because of this?
     
  2. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    DMS boiling point is at 98-101 F, so you're fine as long as you didn't cover the pot with a lid.
     
  3. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina

    I would like to know how long was your boiling time, I think if you boiled enough time with no lid or enough gap on your kettle tun, the only risk is to get a chill-haze trouble due this poor boil temp.
     
  4. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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  5. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Two things to try...
    1) Cover the pot with a lid until rolling boil begins.
    Lift and tip the lid periodically to drain the condensate into a bowl to prevent it from returning to the boil.

    2) Cover the pot with a lid until rolling boil begins.
    Consider getting a fry-pan splatter screen to cover the pot.
    It may be enough to retain heat and maintain the boil while allowing the steam to escape.

    My set-up is a combination of both.

    3) CW is, stir the wort often if you can reach / maintain a vigorious boil.
     
  6. FarmerTed

    FarmerTed Pundit (928) May 31, 2011 Colorado

    When I brewed on the stove, I had the same issue on a couple of occasions (slow to no boil). I still evaporated off plenty of water. I you lose 10%+ of you're starting volume, you're probably doing ok. I never really had a dms issue from using a stove.

    In addition to the above suggestions, you can also try a more concentrated boil (which is easier), and then add back water into the fermenter.
     
  7. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    not to worry about DMS as others have mentioned. you almost have to work to brew a beer with noticable DMS. just cover the pot. you do want a vigorous boil for other reasons though.

    i am suspicious that your thermometer is not accurate, or at least not accurate enough. remember that water boils at 212, and no matter how much heat is applied to the wort, the dial will not read above 212. you would get alot of vapor boiled off, but 212 is the max reading. the wort might be rolling and jumping out of the pot, but it's still 212.

    so is it possible you did achieve a weak boil but your thermometer is off a degree or two?
    Cheers.
     
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    If he is in Chicago at 583 ft above sea level, boiling will be 210.9F. About what he stated.

    Coors makes clean AAL brewing at 5675 ft above sea level, with a boil temp of 201.7 F.

    DMS has a boil point of 99F, so as long as you have a decent boil off rate, the DMS will be carried off.
     
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  9. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    so then yes, we have a boil. weak perhaps, but boiling none the less.

    maybe i'll recalibrate. i'm close to 1,000'. i always assumed the change is almost nil until you get to Denver altitude.
    Cheers.
     
  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I'm at 900 ft above sea level, and boil temp is 210.4 F here.
     
  11. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I would just like to point out that it is possible to tell if your wort is boiling just by looking at it. No thermometer required. :slight_smile:
     
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  12. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    What? No way.

    Next you're gonna tell me that it's possible to tell if the beer has DMS by tasting it.
     
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  13. hey5hitgoose

    hey5hitgoose Pundit (754) Feb 28, 2013 Illinois
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    It was definitely a weak boil, but not vigerous as I have achieved in the past. We use a digital thermometer so not sure how innacurate those can get.
     
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