Do microbrews trademark their various brands?

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  1. Worldset

    Worldset Initiate (0) May 20, 2012 Canada (SK)

    It doesn't seem like they do because I was doing a Google search for certain brand names and the same exact name came up?

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  2. Worldset

    Worldset Initiate (0) May 20, 2012 Canada (SK)

    If not, what's to stop anyone from creating their own "Sculpin IPA" Or "Hop Slam" or "Pliny the Elder", etc?
     
  3. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    I've heard of certain breweries having to change the name of their beers because of threats.

    One was Solsun... which is what Oberon is now. Some Mexican company complained about it, and they changed the name.
     
  4. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    I don't think anyone can trademark Black Jack as it's so common. But many other things are trademarked and fights over trademarks happen occasionally.
     
  5. kzoobrew

    kzoobrew Initiate (0) May 8, 2006 Michigan

    Yes, breweries do trademark brands. In order to maintain control over your trademarked name you have to protect your trademark, this is why you have seen the threat of legal action between breweries.

    You will see a fair number of duplicate names. Black Jack is a common name, so is Double Trouble. If a brewery does own a trademark on the name they have lost their exclusive right to the name at this point as they have failed to protect the trademark.
     
  6. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Initiate (0) Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    Sometimes they do.

    Depending on whether or not a beeradvocate likes the brewery or not, will often determine the sentiment on here when said brewery attempts to protect its intellectual property or gets a c&d letter. Sorry, cease & desist letter. . .
     
  7. ChanChan

    ChanChan Maven (1,341) Dec 12, 2009 California

    I am sure Bells would have been OK if it would have been the other way around right?
     
  8. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    Bell's would have been okay no matter what. Mm. Oberon..
     
  9. jl28r1

    jl28r1 Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2011 Texas

    They sure do, just ask Scott at Freetail or Google "Freetail cease and desist letter" :sunglasses:
     
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  10. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    Of course, but many common terms and names are almost impossible to trademark because they've been in common usage for so long. That's why you can't trademark individual generic words/phrases like "steam" or "beer", but Anchor was able to trademark the phrase "Steam Beer", forcing everyone else to call theirs a "California Common." I would assume that Black Jack falls into the former category, but if you tried to use art that was similar to the above example along with the name you would probably have a lawsuit on your hands.
     
  11. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    It happened even in WY...having to change a beer's name. Wyoming State's Red Desert Red changed to Rendezvous Red after Bitter Creek complained.
     
  12. JimDH

    JimDH Crusader (428) Feb 7, 2011 Kentucky

    Yes, a search for Black Jack on the BA main page shows lots of them in the USA and overseas.
     
  13. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Stillwater Artisanals from (MD) sued stillwater brewing from Stillwater, (MN) and MN stillwater is now called staples mills brewing
     
  14. dauss

    dauss Pooh-Bah (1,954) Aug 9, 2003 Colorado
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  15. dennho

    dennho Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2006 New York

    Firestone Walker had to change their name for Abacus because a wine company had trademarked it.
    I heard slide rule and calculator were considered before they settled on Sucaba.
     
  16. thirstygator

    thirstygator Initiate (0) Mar 29, 2012 Florida

    Swamp Head won a gold medal for one of their beers and then got a cease and desist from another Floridian brewery and had to change the name of the beer. Swamphead's Blackwater is now known as Darkwater.
     
  17. mikehblack

    mikehblack Zealot (602) Feb 10, 2010 California
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    North Coast sent a C&D to De Molen for using the name "Rasputin" for an imperial stout. Hilariously enough they renamed it "Disputin" and there's a little blurb on the label taking a jab at North Coast.
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Mr. Bell learned the leason of defending his IP, and no defends it. One homebrew shop changed a kit's name from 3 hearted ale to dead ringer due to a C&D letter.

    This is the way it works, its business, nothing personal.
     
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  19. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I thought it was Molson that had them change it.
     
  20. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The brewers of Sol were first in, but IIRC Molson was in the wings. They got to keep the artwork, and the text was easy to change as Solsun and Oberon both have 6 letters.
     
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