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Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by kell50, Feb 21, 2013.

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  1. MisterBisco

    MisterBisco Feb 18, 2009 New York
    Beer Trader

    I'm aging a stupid amount of Bigfoot, with each year it getting stupider - I'm buying enough each year (starting in 2011) to enjoy one bottle a year, up through 2023. Bought the first 12 bottles in celebration of my first daughter's birth, doing a Bigfoot vertical tasting on each birthday - so in 2023 we'll have 13 years worth of Bigfoot to try. My wife is not happy about the future state of my closet.
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  2. Squidly

    Squidly Nov 26, 2006 New Jersey

    2009 KTG. Not sure when I'll open it. Maybe if my team makes the SB again.
  3. gregdafdxguy

    gregdafdxguy Feb 17, 2013 Illinois

    Got a bunch of good stuff I've been storing in the basement. Some of it for years. But nothing's in the do not touch zone. Just give me a reason and bring something to share, or be good at talking or cooking, I'll open anything up for you.
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  4. RblWthACoz

    RblWthACoz Aug 19, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Cuvee de Castleton batch 2
    Weyerbacher Riserva 2008
    XI.I by Lancelot 2008
    Gratitude 2007, 2008, 2009
    25th Anniversary Toronado by Russian River
    R&D Golden Ale by New Glarus 2009
    Stevns CCC 2009
    Little Linda's Liquid by Captain Lawrence 2009

    And a few others...of course.
  5. COBeerBuff

    COBeerBuff Jan 4, 2009 Kansas
    Beer Trader

    That's the motto of our tasting group... "We're drinkers, not collectors!"
  6. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    I know people say this, but I don't really understand it. The first batch of bottles were released less than 2 years ago. That's barely just enough time to let it get past a potential "awkward phase" and turn into something incredible.

    All you're going to do to a beer in the first year of aging is knock the heat off it, and you're also risking that awkward phase by opening too soon. You need 2-3-4-5 years depending on the beer to work the real magic most of the time.

    Now, that doesn't meant he beer will age awesomely, or even taste better than it did fresh. But it's way too early to judge yet.
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  7. standardcherry

    standardcherry Jan 17, 2011 Massachusetts

    Beers have an awkward phase and then become awesome again? I haven't heard that, any examples? I personally dig the bourbon/barrel notes in fresh Sucaba and they seemed to fade in my 1 year old bottle.
  8. Groomsy

    Groomsy Sep 23, 2010 Kentucky

    I just recently bought some Bigfoot that I'll be aging. I'm saving some for my friend's wedding next year, and I'm also saving some for my own wedding...whenever that will happen.
  9. WassailWilly

    WassailWilly Sep 8, 2007 New York

    The Bruery 12 days of Christmas vert...
    Well at least what has been released so far.
    Have one bottle of 2008 I beleive Alaskan Smoked Porter put back....
  10. booyahachieved3

    booyahachieved3 Sep 5, 2012 Kansas

    2011 and 2012 Saison-Brett so far. I've got a variety of different 2012 bottles I'm saving for verticals but nothing too impressive
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  11. Ohsaycanyoubeer

    Ohsaycanyoubeer Feb 8, 2012 Colorado

    About two years ago, I found a 2008 Ten Fidy in the back of fridge.

    I've left it there - and I keep trying to forget I have it.

    I really want to see how it holds up in the can.
  12. loafinaround

    loafinaround Jul 16, 2011 New York

    My only aging beer is 2011 samiclaus. basically because it sounds from the reviews as if it would be terribly unpleasant w/o several years of age on it. everything else goes down the hatch or given to a beer friend w/in a few months.
  13. je1129

    je1129 Feb 22, 2011 Iowa

    60th anniversary St Bernardus
    Westy 12
    4pk of WWS
    Case of various aged Expeditions
    And the standard bunch-o-bigfoot
  14. BostonHops

    BostonHops Sep 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    my cellar is limited to a few dozen bottles and i really don't consider any of them (with the exception of my bigfoot vertical, and in this case just for that reason) untouchable. they're all just waiting for the right drinking occasion. (which is just as likely to be a random sunday night as it is to be a birthday or other event of significance.)
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  15. Kinsman

    Kinsman Aug 26, 2009 California

    I drank the last of my 2009 BCBS when the last bottle hit its third birthday and I definitely don't regret that but wish I had more. It was always sitting on the shelf at the store I used to frequent and I was able to buy it in the fall of 2010 but something magical happened in the short time frame after and all of the sudden it became cool and people bought the 2010 and 2011 in no time. Now, of course, NH doesn't get the new stuff either because it's ABV is too high... oh well.

    Currently I have some pretty basic stuff I'm not touching just because I want to know what age does. I love Ten FIDY with a year on it but I'm working on a bit of a vertical as well to see 3-5 years. Same thing with Bigfoot. Anything special I get makes it down into my belly pretty quickly because after all, thats where it's meant to be.
  16. cbeer88

    cbeer88 Sep 5, 2007 Massachusetts

    Yeah - many beers worth aging have an awkward phase. It takes time for the flavors to meld and mature into something beautiful and complex. If you drink a beer well after it is fresh but before "the magic" has happened, you can often just get a bland/boring representation of the real thing - the hops and those intense fresh flavors are gone, but the complexities of age haven't come out yet.

    Now, that said, most barrel aged beers are better off fresh. But, I've found BA barleywines tend to age much better than stouts and other types of barrel aged beers. Net-net I'm excited to try a 2011 Abacus sometime later this year to see where it is at...

    Standard disclaimer: A lot of it comes down to personal taste.
  17. DaveAnderson

    DaveAnderson Jan 11, 2011 Minnesota

    Vienna's finest: 1529 Herzwesten Dark.
  18. YogiBeer

    YogiBeer May 10, 2012 Illinois

    They say to drink Sucaba fresh because Firestone walker says to drink it fresh.

    I have a bottle of Cherry Bourbon Big Eddy that I'm opening next christmas with the guy who made it. :) SO PUMPED.
  19. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Mar 18, 2010 California

    My last magnum of this bad boy. 2006 Budweiser Brew Masters Reserve.

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  20. brian4beer

    brian4beer Jan 27, 2013 Indiana
    Beer Trader

    Such a funny thread. I too have beer that I am holding onto in my cellar and really have no idea what future scenario will bring me to drink it. It is as if I am saving it for this really special occasion that I don't even know what it is or when it is. Makes me laugh at myself a bit as it is only beer but I treat with such high regard at times. The rest I just drink at will but for some reasons certain bottles are "different."
  21. PattyMelt

    PattyMelt Feb 3, 2013 Michigan

    The only long term aging is Westvleteren VII that I got about in October from my new friend in Belgium. Had a six, drank one the day it came and another on my bf's birthday. Taking one to MBG winter beerfest for a pre-festival toast with my friends, but the others are being tucked back. I've started short-term hoarding my favorite seasonals to periodically enjoy until their release rolls around again.
  22. ShanePB

    ShanePB Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    The only beers I really have in my cellar that I don't want to touch yet are some bottles of:

    2010 DFH 120 Minute
    2010 DFH WWS

    I keep hearing these are crazy good with 5+ years on them, so I plan to test that out.

    Other than that, everything is fair game.
  23. sjverla

    sjverla Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Thanks for that. I got two 2012s for Christmas. I had a two-year old WWS and thought it was pretty good. Now I'll have something to look forward to someday when I've completely forgotten about them.
  24. ShogoKawada

    ShogoKawada May 31, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I love that beer fresh, but I've had the good fortune to have 2 or 3 bottles at 5+ years and it's soo smooth, it's really amazing. Hold out, brother!
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  25. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
    Beer Trader

    I have 2 x 12oz bottle of Three Guys Off the Scale Barleywine (2012). My buddy opened his bottle a few months ago and it drinks like a port. I plan on opening the next in 2017 and making a deterination for the other at that time.

    Also plan on sitting on a few bottles of Founders Backwoods Bastard, Bells Third Coast, and Big Foot for 5 year verticals.
  26. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
    Beer Trader

    We are cracking a 2012 Utopias the end of next month.

    What are you thoughts on Murda'd? We were thinking next winter. Would hate for that one to slide past its prime.
  27. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    I'd attend a seminar at an airport Holiday Inn if he gave one.
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  28. Beerandraiderfan

    Beerandraiderfan Apr 14, 2009 Nevada

    I've got a few of those. efil-4 edanomel 46 rellim
  29. mattsander

    mattsander Feb 3, 2010 Alberta (Canada)
    Beer Trader

    Armand 4', Lou Pepe Gueuzes 2007, Churchills finest hour 2012 and BCBVS. No idea when I will open these.
  30. mikecharley

    mikecharley Nov 6, 2008 Pennsylvania
    Beer Trader

    Armand Series
    750 Cantillon Classic 09 (great vintage imo)
    07 Expedition (waiting for the 10 year mark)
    Midnight Sun 3K
    SNR 2010

    A bunch of miscellaneous stuff from 08 that I intend on opening for various wedding anniversaries (Rose, Classic, Chimay blue's, Thomas Hardy's, etc).
  31. DrGonzoDDS

    DrGonzoDDS Mar 7, 2010 Illinois
    Beer Trader

    I have no Idea, the idea of that beer alone makes my head spin. Can it be better than its parts? It should age well, but I wouldn't wait longer than 2 years myself just in case.
  32. kscaldef

    kscaldef Jun 11, 2010 Oregon
    Beer Trader

    What are you doing in this forum then?

    My handful of "do not touch" beers are all earmarked for specific occasions: 2002 JW Lees and OGV to share with my daughter when she's 21; Bruery xmas beers for whatever year that wraps up (2020?); Stone Vertical Epics until I can schedule a damn day with enough people to pop them all :rolleyes:.
  33. Gotti311

    Gotti311 Mar 22, 2009 Wisconsin
    Beer Trader

    I had a 6 year old Sami this winter. SOOOOOOOOO good! Like brandy without the heat
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  34. forrestbetts

    forrestbetts Nov 29, 2007 Illinois

    Key words, of course, being "my closet"
  35. forrestbetts

    forrestbetts Nov 29, 2007 Illinois

    Bell's Batch 7000 and BCBS from '06, '08-'12
  36. BostonHops

    BostonHops Sep 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    yeah this is similar to my old approach, just holding on to them for some vague, future special occasion that never really materialized. i think you need more of a clear objective. (i.e. let's see how this beer changes over the course of 2-4 years.) for those gems you're just waiting on the right occasion to open, my opinion is don't overthink it. "special occasions" tend to be congested with enough hoopla on their own. sort of what i was getting at in an earlier post - sometimes just a random night with nothing going on is the perfect time to open something great. then the beer is the focal point, without distractions.
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  37. RStang13

    RStang13 Jun 22, 2011 New Jersey
    Beer Trader

    The only beer in the "don't touch" section in my cellar are there with the restriction of "without friends"
    I dip into my cellar all the time, but certain beers I feel are meant to be enjoyed with company.
    When my buddies come over, they can pick whatever they wanna try. They appreciate it (at least I hope!)
    They always bring beer over with them, but we always end up two or three bottles deep from the cellar
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  38. Benny3000

    Benny3000 Apr 4, 2012 Michigan
    Beer Trader

    I am sitting on 2 bottles of Hair of the Dog - Dave. Not sure when I will open them.
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