Do saison/farmhouse age well?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by torr99, May 21, 2015.

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  1. torr99

    torr99 Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2015 Nevada

    Do these ales age well regardless of abv?
     
  2. torr99

    torr99 Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2015 Nevada

    Specifically these beers...

    Brooklyn sorachi ace
    Anchorage calabaza
    Goose island sofie

    Or are they just best consumed as fresh as possible?
     
  3. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

  4. bcarter

    bcarter Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2014 Michigan

    I just had 2011 Sofie last weekend and it tasted great.
     
  5. JouerAvecLeFeu

    JouerAvecLeFeu Pooh-Bah (2,032) Apr 17, 2015 Washington
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    Yes. Especially if they are bottle fermented / bottle conditioned beers.
     
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  6. JaefromLA

    JaefromLA Initiate (0) May 19, 2015 California

    Your good to go with the Sofie. Just had an 11' also and it was outstanding. It's the brett though. The bretty ones age very well.
     
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  7. torr99

    torr99 Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2015 Nevada

    So as a general rule you guys would say they age pretty well? I don't need to drink them within 5 months of bottling or anything like that?
     
  8. lookrider

    lookrider Savant (1,208) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Sofie with 2 years on it is one of my favorite beers period
     
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  9. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    I would think the Brooklyn should be consumed pretty fresh - it was designed to showcase the Soriachi Ace hops. The Sofie can easily age well for a number of years. I don't know the Anchorage at all, so I don't have an opinion.
    In general, I think Saisons should be drunk pretty fresh, while farmhouse ones, especially those with Brett, can age very well over time.
     
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  10. cfh64

    cfh64 Pooh-Bah (2,070) Aug 16, 2005 Texas
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    Ditto. I prefer Sofie with at least a year on it but I like Sorachi as fresh as possible. I had a Sorachi that was almost a year old and drain poured most of it. I don't know if it was storage or batch variation but it was very disappointing and disgusting.

    As most have already said, saisons with Brett in them age well if you like funk. If you don't like funk and prefer the cleaner, crisper aspect of Brett then drink fresh. I very much prefer Boulevards Saison Brett with at least a year on it but no more than two.
     
  11. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

    Does anybody know if Great Divide Colette ages well? My shop has some canned July 2015 and I wanted to check before snatching some up.
    I know Sofie is bottle conditioned and can develop up to 5 years, but assuming each farmhouse is unique.
    Any experience would be appreciated.
     
  12. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    It's not going to be mind blowing, but less than a year won't hurt it.
     
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  13. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Collette isn't something I'd cellar, but at under a year old it'll be fine.
     
  14. jparizo

    jparizo Initiate (0) Jan 16, 2011 Indiana

    I reread my post and it was a little unclear. Was wondering if it would still taste as the brewer intended, as I'm not looking to cellar it, but drink within the next month.
    Thanks for the info.
     
  15. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Yes it'll be fine, saisons don't need to be drank super fresh like ipas. It will be a little different but I wouldn't sweat it.
     
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  16. Samlover55

    Samlover55 Pooh-Bah (1,735) Oct 8, 2015 New York
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    I have a Boulevard Tank 7 a little past best by date, should i drink it up, or can I leave cellaring a little longer?
    Thanks
     
  17. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    Because Tank 7 is so focused on Amarillo/Citra hop character, we don't suggest aging the beer at all. Pop it!
     
  18. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,670) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    My experience is that the average farmhouse/saison ages well but doesn't always improve with age, especially if it has fruit or was refermented with fruit. In fact, I'm no longer cellaring any of my fruit beers -- age doesn't kill them, but for me, the fruit flavor falls off a bit over time (Jester King Dichotomous melon beer is one example).

    As others have pointed out, as long as it's bottle conditioned, it can last quite a while in the cellar. I "age" my beers in my fridge, which obviously slows down the aging process, and I've had no issues aging anything that was bottle conditioned regardless of style.
     
  19. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    Saisons without Brett will age as well as any blonde Belgians, so about 1-2 years before you start to see noticeable degradation in terms of oxidative characteristics. This is where I would put most Belgian Saisons on the market. Saisons with Brett can go years, as the yeast will continue to scour oxygen for a long time, ******ing oxidation and developing new flavors.
     
  20. ScottKramer

    ScottKramer Devotee (363) May 27, 2016 New York

    So would Fantome fit with these Belgiums, 1-2 years being good? Thanks in advance...
     
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