Do you like Trillium's new fermentation profile?

Maybe better phrasing would have been that it's gotten rid of some of the hop burn in those beers (again, your mileage may vary as far as enjoying that).

Personally, at most 1 per night. I often will see a higher abv beer (>8%) and think...I don't feel like having that...and picking up something else if I want a beer. This was the case for me for the original The Streets. "I don't want a 10% beer right now."

 

Every beer I’ve had with the new profile has been worse. Mettle, Dialed In, Congress, DDH Congress, Melcher, Fort Point, etc…. The new profile is garbage IMO.

I still don’t know how they manage to get a savory, almost peanutty note in some of these beers now. The absolute worst.

Buddy was in the area and asked if I wanted any (usually I grab at least a mix case) and I politely declined. Not at their price point and current quality level. It's a bummer, but whatever.

 

I agree that the older beers we're often raw, but that's what set Trillium apart in my opinion. Some of the DDH variants were a little too agressive for my tastes, but the core beers, like FPPA and Congress St., rarley had the chaulky hop burn - they were bright and assertively hoppy where as the new profile muddles the same, and lends a sweeter and heavier mouthfeel. That all being said, this based purley on my personal tastes and experience. I can understand why some people would enjoy the new profile over the old.

 

Oh. Um. I always kind of thought of a four-park as single-serving packaging.

 

Yeah, I definitely do not put Bissell in the "titans" of NE category. I certainly am not as excited about Trillium beers now and buy much less than I used to. From what I have had, it seems that the new profile works well for beers with Citra and less well with pretty much all the other hops. Just my opinion based on the stuff I have had. I used to think that Galaxy Cutting Tiles was one of the best beers I have ever had but did not like it at all on the new profile. Had the Citra Tiles the other night and still found that very enjoyable and I did like the Lighthouse beer that was Citra as well.

 

I somehow doubt yeast is a cost whatsoever for Trillium right now. However, the quantity of hops used certainly is. I'm no homebrewer, but could a yeast strain change help accentuate hop aroma or flavor such that hop quantity could be altered and taste/aroma stay somewhat similar? Perhaps this "thicker" feel of the beer makes it harder to tell if hop levels have decreased?

How's that for paranoia.

 

Absolutely, yeast can drastically change a beer by altering finished beer pH (perception of brightness), mute or accentuate hop flavor profiles, the esters given off by the yeast itself can drastically be different and fluctuation characteristics can change mouthfeel perception. Yeast is a huge part of finished beer aroma and flavor. Change the yeast, the beer is completely different.

So yes, to answer your question, it is plausible that trying to use a different strain while reducing hop quantities is possible, while *trying* to make the beer taste as it always has.

 

I don’t really care for any IPAs in the 9-10% abv range, Trillium’s or others. So I can’t really comment on theirs. However, I was a huge fan of Congress Street and Fort Point; Galaxy Fort Point was my favorite ipa (I know it’s a pale ale) for quite some time. But for the past year or so, those beers are not very close to what they once were. I also think the beer started to change before the ‘fermentation profile’ change happened.

 

I don't care how they label it. It's a 6.6% hop bomb, it's an IPA.

 

what beers are u getting a peanut butter note in?

 

DDH Congress, Mettle and Dialed In are three I recall. To clarify, it's not peanut butter. Just like raw, unsalted peanuts in the finish. Its faint, but awkward.

My girlfriend pointed it out to me and ever since she said it, I cant un-taste it from those beers when I had them.

 

I used to spend 100-200 per month at Trillium. Now I find myself going to Proclamation, and Tilted Barn more often. Last time I went to Trillium was to pick up some beers a trade partner asked me to get for him, I didn't buy anything to bring home for myself.

 

I can't speak to Trillium's recent offerings as I haven't had any in months, but I get that peanut note in a lot of IPAs. To me it makes me think of peanut oil. I first picked up on it in Heady Topper and once I recognized it I now can't miss the flavor any time it is present. I had assumed it was related to a specific type of malt, but maybe it's more complicated than that. I get it in Exhibit A's Hair Raiser as well as some Singlecut IPAs.

 

Had mettle this past Saturday and it was pure juice. There were three of us and all of us commented that it was pure juice. Didn’t taste any peanut butter whatsoever.

 

It’s definitely from using London 3. I’ve used it in home brew and won’t use it again. I’ve gotten the same peanut flavor on the finish from some Treehouse, Bissell and new Trillium. Not a fan.

 

Treehouse and Bissell don’t use London 3.

 

I think the change benefits huge, high ABV IPAs like The Streets, Dialed Up, and some Permutations.

I've found the smaller beers to be sweeter and "flabbier" than I remember.

 

ISO: Peanut Butter Arrogance DDH Congress Street