Do you mind when breweries refuse to grow or expand?

it is the definition of greedy

 

I don't really agree. Unless a brewery is in it for some kind of higher aspirations than business, the laws of business and economics demand that they charge what the market will bare. When demand goes down they're supposed to adjust price downwards.

Whether this agrees with my moral sensibilities doesn't really matter. They're making a product for sale.

 

Both the beer and the grilled dough thing (I have a hard time calling that pizza) sound very tasty.

 

So for example a brewery still has some hard to get bottles and sells them at E-Bay pricing just because they can get more money, is that not greedy? If not then it alienates your customer base a bit, in my opinion.

 

It would alienate me, and hopefully others, and if they're professional, they would notice that pricing is too high because demand is going down and decrease pricing.

 

You took the words right off my keyboard. Closing in on 200 posts soon too.
Talk about a sense of entitlement.

 

Well then I will have you know I made a pizza (ha ha) in my oven the previous week where I cracked a few eggs right on top. It was equally as bad ass!

 

"The Alchemist to double Heady Topper production

Plans are under way to double our Heady Topper production- hopefully this will happen by fall.
At that time, we should be able to get Heady Topper everywhere in the state of Vermont. Craft Beer Guild, who distributes our Celia Saison, will distribute Heady Topper outside of Alchemy Distributing’s delivery area (Burlington, Montpelier, Stowe, Mad River Valley). [...] Once fall rolls around and we have increased our capacity, we believe we will have enough Heady Topper to send to the Boston area on a regular basis. "

Is The Alchemist still being selfish? They are increasing production, but not enough so that it will be distributed by me. Does that make them kinda selfish?​

 

Sounds delicious. I am sure I would love it.

Bell's Two HEarted is great. I wish they would stop being selfish and distribute in NJ.

 

I guess it's been said already. Right on brewbetter.

 

Well, this is just a flat out lie.

Please let me know who made this claim so that I can call them personally. If you don't want to post their name here please bm me.

 

If it's a "flat out lie" it isn't me. Two totally different bottleshops with unrelated owners made the same comment.

 

Not saying this is at all the case, but with cigars a lot of the special release stuff is only available to stores that carry a certain amount of facings or do a certain amount of business. By doing that you are not guaranteed the limited products AT ALL, but if you DON'T meet the requirements, you have 0% chance of getting them

 

You had posted a picture of FW's expansion. Incidentally they were who I was referring to in terms of at least doubling the cost of some of their limited release beers. Don't get me wrong, I love the beer they make and the people that work there are great, but something around $30 for last years Black Xantus (which can still be found in stores around the area for $15) available only to be consumed at the Tap Room seems overpriced. Then of course there are the old anniversary editions which I think gets up to the $75 range if not more. Pricing like wine rather than beer.

 

I understand, but it's only "overpriced" if overall sales start to decrease a lot. Otherwise, it's just overpriced for you (and me). Parabola was 13.99 at my local shop this year (15.99 at the brewery lol)

 

As I mentioned, please pass along their information so we can get to the bottom of this. If this is something the distributor is doing without our knowledge then we need to address it. However, I have trouble believing that this would be the case; we have very limited distribution and shops are limited in what they can purchase anyway. It's not like stores are sitting on a bunch of Just Outstanding IPA in the hopes of getting Citra. Still, if there is a misunderstanding, we need to fix it.

 

Nah, I'd say more like 18 and has just read Ayn Rand.

 

I was glad to see your Just Outstanding IPA in Firestone Walker's restaurant and visitor center today. They said it was leftovers from the invitational. I know someone from Redwood City was nice enough to share with the pour folk some leftover Dirty Hippie the day after the FW Invitational. We put a nice dent in it.

 

Expansion is a tough one for businesses and I am not surprised that even popular breweries don't expand as fast as some people might think they can. I mean I have been a fan of a local brewery where I live for a number of years now. Back when I first became familiar with them they were tiny, like their bottling line was a guy filling two 750ml bottles using a filling machine at a time time tiny. As they started to gain popularity and grow they talked about on their blog a bunch of difficult issues that they had when it came to expansion. Like how they went from a small company where all of the employees were members of the owner's extended family or close personal friends to a point where they were basically hiring people they didn't really know because they needed more staff. Or how like when they got to a certain point they had to add a bunch of positions that they didn't have before, like a Human Resources manager and other supervisors, that they didn't have before. And that doesn't even take into account the money a brewery would risk by expanding, so yea I can totally understand why a successful but small brewery might not want to take the huge risk and try and become bigger.

 

Not sure its totally true, but If you sold your beer for the same price, but got allot bigger. Since your overhead is larger, your profit per unit would go down? But you make more cash right? So your gross sales are higher but net profit is lower?

I mean I had a self employed biz a few years ago, and when the wife was on the payroll I made half as much....lol

Of course there is more to it in real life, I never sold a product, but boy I sure love to go into the micro beer biz right now.