Do you want to know your beer ingredients?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JohnNickel, Mar 20, 2015.

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  1. JohnNickel

    JohnNickel Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2006 District of Columbia

    I try to eat healthy and live healthy...and I would love to drink healthy, but that's made slightly more difficult by the lack of readily available beer ingredients. I would love to see voluntary listing of ingredients by craft brewers on the packaging or their website.

    Are there reasons that brewers wouldn't want to list ingredients other than if they don't want it known that they use a particular ingredient because they don't think their consumers would like it? If listing ingredients on the package is a cost issue, then just put it on the website. I would like to be able to easily choose what additives, coloring agents, preservatives, etc. I consume.

    I enjoy Bear Republic Racer 5 on a regular basis and I wanted to know what was in it. No dice on the website. I emailed and received a prompt answer. The ingredients: malted barley, malted wheat, hops, yeast, dextrose. And the first three are all non-GMO, I was told. I was pretty excited to learn that my fave beer had no weird additives.

    Would most BAs like easy access to the ingredients in the beer we drink? I would love to see a section where we can add ingredients to a beer listing. We can provide the source, and the site can name who added the ingredients. I'm not sure how--and how well--this would work. But it's just a thought.

    Maybe if enough BAs express a concern for the ingredients they consume, craft brewers will begin to make their ingredient list readily available.
     
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  2. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I already know that beer is primarily water, malt, hops, and yeast. Beyond that, I guess I don't care that much. I can see why it matters to some folks, I'm just not that interested.
     
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  3. ivorycannon

    ivorycannon Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2013 Indiana

    Maybe no GMOS, But plenty of pesticides in America's water supplies. Yeah America!!!! btw, Racer 5 is the bomb.
     
  4. fscottkey

    fscottkey Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2014 New York

  5. StartedwithSAM

    StartedwithSAM Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Virginia

    Yes. Simple ingredients.
     
  6. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    :astonished:
     
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  7. JohnNickel

    JohnNickel Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2006 District of Columbia

    I don't care if the ingredients are organic. I just like knowing what they are so I can choose what chemicals I ingest.
     
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  8. Alpha309

    Alpha309 Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2014 California

    You will find that the ingredients in beer are almost standard straight across the board. Hops, water, yeast, and some sort of grain. Normally if there is anything else like cocoa, coffee, vanilla, fruit, or anything else it is very common for it to be very clear that it was used in the labeling.
     
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  9. elchicodelgado

    elchicodelgado Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2008 Texas
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    You seem surprised. It's not an uncommon ingredient for IPAs or IIPAs.
     
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  10. are_doubleyou

    are_doubleyou Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2014 Illinois

    Some breweries (Deschutes comes to mind) share what kinds of malts, hops and other ingredients they use quite readily for homebrewers trying to clone their recipes. Others are less forthcoming about varieties and I don't know why you would list "water, malted barley, hops and yeast" on the side of every bottle and can when this is common knowledge.

    I think a very large number of craft breweries don't list additives because they don't use them for the most part. Beer preserves well naturally and a proper malt bill should eliminate any need for artificial coloring. A lot of breweries treat their water, but I doubt many consumers really know much about water chemistry. I wouldn't tell my customers about water treatment unless they were homebrewers who had some idea why I would add, for example, calcium chloride to my water.
     
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  11. beerme411

    beerme411 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2010 California

    Honestly bottle dating and ABV % are much higher priorities for me then ingredients that is mostly just hops, barley, yeast, and water. And some do list whats in there throwing in plums, pumpkin, chocolate, wheat, peaches, etc.

    For ingredients how specific do you want them to be? Is yeast good or do you want the specific strains? A couple years back they started pushing "with natural flavors added" which in the case of Anchor Foghorn just meant owning up to the fact that they put maple syrup in there(which they should advertise it could sell more of it).

    There are good reasons for no ingredients listed such as taking up space on the label, not required by TTB, trade secrets(?), don't think it's important, and don't think it will help them sell more beer.
     
  12. 2ellas

    2ellas Maven (1,302) Feb 20, 2014 New Hampshire
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    Start brewing your own so you know EXACTLY whats in there
     
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  13. FrancisT

    FrancisT Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2008 Vermont

    As long as my beer has tons of gluten in it I don't care about an ingredient list.
     
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  14. DrDemento456

    DrDemento456 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,439) May 15, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    No in fact I don't even really want to know the ABV to tell you the truth. It's just another way to inflate the price here in PA. Only thing that matters is bottle date
     
  15. beerophilia

    beerophilia Aspirant (217) Oct 8, 2011 Washington

    It sounds to me like you might be more concerned with sourcing & farming practices than actual ingredients, which are pretty close to identical in craft beer, save spices, herbs, and other adjuncts (already covered in other posts). Maybe you'd be better-served by requesting sources and suppliers, and you could query them about their farming practices in regards to pesticides, fertilizers, seeds & strains.

    Also keep in mind that for a while, beers have been prohibited from including nutrition info -- but not ingredients -- on their labels (although I've seen some recently on ciders).
     
  16. Keffa

    Keffa Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2009 Ohio

    Good on you for having ideals.

    My point of view, with care to avoid coming across as a total asshole: Just drink a beer, period.
     
  17. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    If I'm not mistaken, dextrose is often used in IPA's and DIPA's to make more sugar available for the fermentation process, which in turn yields a higher ABV.
     
  18. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    This. There just aren't that many additives in good beer. I'm not opposed to a brewery posting that info on a website if they want to; I'm very opposed to more mandatory requirements that will raise the cost to the brewery for little benefit.
     
  19. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Dextrose / corn sugar is a flavor neutral simple sugar. Sugars are commonly used in brewing to boost abv, and increase dryness. Sucks, and Brown Shugga are two that come to mind which openly declare their use of brown sugar in making them big dry sweet delicousness.
    A brewery will straight out tell you when they are using something other than water, grain, hops, and yeast.
    Most of them will also tell you when they are using certified organic sustainably raised grains and hops, because it is not a common practice. You can start asking the question of breweries about their choices in grain and hops. But you'll also set off a lot of grumbling about cost because of how expensive these items are in comparison to the regular stuff.
     
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