Does autolysis occur in aging beer?

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  1. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'm wondering if autolysis occurs when aging beer? It seems like it should be a more prevalent issue when tucking beers away for a few years.
     
  2. tinypyramids

    tinypyramids Pundit (897) Jul 19, 2012 Illinois

  3. SDDanC

    SDDanC Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2011 California

  4. commis

    commis Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2009 Massachusetts

    Maybe.
     
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  5. Stevedore

    Stevedore Grand Pooh-Bah (5,096) Nov 16, 2012 Oregon
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    Absolutely yeanot.
     
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  6. Drankenstein

    Drankenstein Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2013 Kansas

    Was the beer bottle conditioned?
     
  7. DimensionX

    DimensionX Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2010 Oregon

    I've never heard of it/experienced it happening in bottle.

    anybody got any first hand experience?
     
  8. dgthrasher

    dgthrasher Crusader (412) Dec 27, 2008 Connecticut
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    of course it does with time/ storage conditions. That is part of the beer aging process. But autolysis isn't always a bad thing. It may be bad for a bottle conditioned pilsner, and if it occurs in the short time you have a pilsner, its due to improper storage conditions

    But for a 10 year old barleywine or belgian strong its going to be part of the aging process, that adds complexity.
     
  9. PEBKAC

    PEBKAC Pooh-Bah (1,743) Sep 4, 2006 North Carolina
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    Autolysis is not the same as oxidation, which is very subjective in its own right, though not noxious like auto can be.

    That reminds me that I have some beers that haven't been looked in on in a bit.

    Cheers. :slight_smile:
     
  10. dgthrasher

    dgthrasher Crusader (412) Dec 27, 2008 Connecticut
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    Autolysis and oxidation are different. If you take the same beer and bottle condition some of it, over time, stored next to eachother, over time they will be different. The one with yeast will change more rapidly (change for better or worse is personal preference, as with all ageing beer)

    If you take a commercial bottle conditioned beer that is one month old you can recover the yeast (yeast will grow) if you take a bottle that is 10 years+ old, very few yeast will grow (in comparison). yeast die and autolysis occurs.

    The noxious autolysis your talking about is gross autolysis, where all the yeast die in primary.

    If I am wrong please correct me.
     
  11. lookrider

    lookrider Savant (1,208) Apr 22, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Just my opinion but like dgthrasher said, of course autollysis will occur in the bottle since there are live yeast in a bottle conditioned beer. However, I don't think the yeast propagate to such an extent in the bottle that their deaths will be greatly noticed. RIP little fellas.
     
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  12. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Yeast autolysis most certainly occurs as bottle conditioned beers age. In large amounts autolysis leads to off flavors, in small amounts though it's perceived as added complexity.
     
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