Dogfish Head "Heaven and Hell" Help?

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  1. Titans77

    Titans77 Zealot (588) Jul 21, 2011 Maryland

    So I stumbled upon this creation in a forum earlier today when I was browsing on my phone. So I don't remember where it was. But essentially, it explained that it was 120min IPA on the bottom and WWS on the top. Somebody also said that they don't behave as a typical Black and Tan that stays separated. Rather the two mix together.

    Needless to say, I am very intrigued by this combo. So I have some questions to ask:

    Has anybody had this behemoth of a drink?
    If so...
    was it a good drink?
    did your black and tan stay separated, or did it mix?
    would it be something you recommend for a birthday drink? (Mine is in 5 days)

    General Question:
    With regards to keeping the drinks separated, the stout on top needs to be less dense than the ipa on the bottom. So would pouring the ipa first at a very low temp (say 38 degrees) then adding the stout by pouring over a spoon at a room temp (say 72 degrees) increase the odds of keeping the two drinks separated?

    Any input would help. Thanks!
     
    #1 Titans77, Apr 13, 2012
  2. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Bourbon is effective at getting you drunk and tasting delicious.
     
    #2 olympuszymurgus, Apr 13, 2012
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  3. Titans77

    Titans77 Zealot (588) Jul 21, 2011 Maryland

    Well, yeah. But its the journey, not the destination.
     
    #3 Titans77, Apr 13, 2012
  4. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Pooh-Bah (1,972) Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    Had it on draft back in early August and it was ver good. Not sure which was poured on bottom or top, but not sure if it really matters either.
     
    #4 kawilliams81, Apr 13, 2012
  5. Titans77

    Titans77 Zealot (588) Jul 21, 2011 Maryland

    was it at one of the alehouses?
     
    #5 Titans77, Apr 13, 2012
  6. Beerontwowheels

    Beerontwowheels Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2009 Maryland

    Just had it a month ago.at the gaithersburg alehouse. Delicious stuff. Light on bottom, heavy on top. Can't go wrong!
     
    #6 Beerontwowheels, Apr 13, 2012
  7. JRod1969

    JRod1969 Maven (1,290) Nov 23, 2010 New York
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    I had it on tap in November and it was better than the sum of its parts. The bartender couldn't keep them separated, so t was just a blend of the 120 and WWS, but it worked. Enjoy.
     
    #7 JRod1969, Apr 13, 2012
  8. axeman9182

    axeman9182 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2009 New Jersey

    I had 2oz of Heaven & Hell with the 120 being run through a whole leaf hop Randall and the WWS through an espresso bean Randall at EBF a couple years ago. I don't remember if they stayed separated or not, just that it was awesome.
     
    #8 axeman9182, Apr 13, 2012
  9. kawilliams81

    kawilliams81 Pooh-Bah (1,972) Feb 27, 2009 Illinois
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    Finnegans in Plainfield. Shortly before it closed :slight_frown:
     
    #9 kawilliams81, Apr 13, 2012
  10. Thickfreakness

    Thickfreakness Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2010 New York

    I've poured this amazing brew many a time... Golden elixer on the bottom, darkness on top...
     
    #10 Thickfreakness, Apr 13, 2012
  11. Dope

    Dope Pooh-Bah (2,925) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I made one last month. I just mix them like with all black and tans. Never saw a need to keep them separated. Might as well just keep them in two separate glasses if you're gonna do that.

    It was quite delicious, but mainly intoxicating. 24 ounces of 18% ABV is quite powerful.

    Dope
     
    #11 Dope, Apr 13, 2012
  12. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
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    Falls tap house served it a bit back. My wife had one. Disgusting. I loved the 120 and hated the WWS, too sweet . Mixed together the WWS took over and I hated it, wife liked it. There was no seperation of the two when mixed.

    Enjoy
     
    #12 Giantspace, Apr 13, 2012
  13. Heatwave33

    Heatwave33 Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2011 Florida

    Sounds good!! I'm going to try it soon.
     
    #13 Heatwave33, Apr 13, 2012
  14. ricksrealm

    ricksrealm Initiate (0) Nov 10, 2011 Florida

    I've had Heaven and Hell on tap and from bottles. It always mixed when I've had it. I do like it a lot though.
     
    #14 ricksrealm, Apr 13, 2012
  15. emyers

    emyers Pundit (949) Jan 11, 2009 Illinois

    Made it from bottles about a month ago. I couldn't keep the layers separate. Either way, I definitely prefer it to either beer alone
     
    #15 emyers, Apr 13, 2012
  16. Jwale73

    Jwale73 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Aug 15, 2007 Rhode Island
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    Agreed - same result and same opinion. I did half of each bottle for the black and tan and then enjoyed the remainders separately.
     
    #16 Jwale73, Apr 13, 2012
  17. evilc

    evilc Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2012 California

    I am a black and tan pouring expert. I will report my findings, perhaps tonight.
     
    #17 evilc, Apr 13, 2012
  18. bluejacket74

    bluejacket74 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,305) Jul 4, 2005 Ohio
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    I've had a small amount of them combined before and thought it was pretty good. One of these days I'll have to try it with full bottles mixed together to see how it is. I'm sure I'll probably like it! :slight_smile:
     
    #18 bluejacket74, Apr 13, 2012
  19. Titans77

    Titans77 Zealot (588) Jul 21, 2011 Maryland

    Well I'm doing this for my b'day. All 24 ounces in an enormous IKEA snifter. I'm going to try my temp hypothesis to see if I can keep them separated. If they mix, it won't make for a good pic, but it should still taste good. I will update come Tuesday.
     
    #19 Titans77, Apr 14, 2012
  20. zachary80

    zachary80 Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2009 Indiana

    A waste of a WWS in my opinion, but definitely fun to try. We split them into two glasses, one of them stayed divided for a little while before mixing.
     
    #20 zachary80, Apr 14, 2012
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