Double Rye IPA - Extract, Feedback?

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  1. danelhombre

    danelhombre Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Texas

    I am trying my first Double Rye IPA. I want it to have a solid spicy rye flavor complemented with a strong spicy/earthy hop flavor.

    Double Rye IPA
    Extract
    5-5.5 gallon
    1.080 OG
    1.010 FG


    Specialty Grains - 1 hour steep at 155 degrees:
    .5 lb Flaked Rye
    .5 lb Rye Malt
    .5 lb Crystal 20L
    .5 lb Cara Vienna

    Extract:
    8 lbs Extra Pale LME
    1 lb Amber DME


    Hops:
    60 minute - 2 oz Warrior
    15 minute - 1 oz Nugget
    5 minute - 1 oz Summit
    0 Minute - 1 oz Nugget
    Dry Hop - 1 oz Nugget, 1 oz Summit - 7-14 days

    White Labs California Ale Yeast - Double starter

    Using a Whirfloc tab and Brewvint yeast nutrients at the 15 minute mark

    Also planning to add about a pound of corn sugar to boost the OG


    Any feedback is welcome. Would you switch around the hops at all? I have seen Nugget used for bittering, but are used late in the boil? I was thinking about maybe moving one ounce of Warrior to later in the boil, and maybe using some of the Nugget earlier.
     
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  2. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    Nugget nectar is a good example of nugget used late along with other hops. I had good results with a nugget/mosaic/cascade pale ale as well
     
  3. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    For the malt bill, I would do a mini-mash w/ 1-2# base malt to convert the Rye. I would also go with either flaked or malted, not sure what the blend would get you? Just a thought, have you considered Cara-Rye? It is nice in a Red IPA with dank hops.

    As far as the hops, I would leave them. The Nugget will give you earthy/herbal notes w/ some citrus. The Summit will give dank and tangerines, maybe onion/garlic, depends on the harvest. Leave the Warrior as bittering as it doesn't have much flavor.
     
  4. danelhombre

    danelhombre Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Texas

    I went with the rye blend on the recommendation of my homebrew supply store. The dude said that the flaked rye wil be bolder but fade quicker, and the rye malt would be more subtle but last longer. Didnt consider Cara-Rye, might have to throw that in the mix next round if this one goes well. Definitely want that deep red/copper color, I'm hoping the 1 lb of Amber DME will help with that.

    As for the hops, I probably wont mess with them too much, was thinking about just blending them a little:

    60 minute: 1 oz Warrior, .5 oz Nugget
    15 minute: .5 oz Warrior, .5 oz Nugget, .25 oz Summit
    5 minute: .5 oz Warrior, .5 oz Nugget, .25 oz Summit
    0 minute: .5 Nugget, .5 Summit
    Dry Hop: 1 oz Nugget, 1 oz Summit

    I know not everyone is a fan, but I like that pungent, earthy, garlic aroma. I'm hoping it will complement the spiciness of the rye.
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Don't forget the chocolate rye and/or cystal rye next time if you want some additional SRM along with a little more ryeness

    When I make a ryePA I 'll usually use every form available at about 20-25% total of the grist (not counting a shit load of rice hulls) :slight_smile:
     
  6. danelhombre

    danelhombre Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Texas

    So I brewed it yesterday, mixed the hops as described above. They all smelled pretty similar, I think they blended well. I just remember the Summit smelling a lot more potent than the other two. I filled my primary to at least 5.5 (maybe a little more than 5.5), so the OG came in just a bit low. With the temp adjustment, it was about 1.073 (I was hoping for closer to 1.080). It's got a good fermentation going this morning already.

    I was thinking about adding a pound of sugar to give the gravity a little boost (I understand that it will lower the FG as well). I have honey, dark brown sugar, and cane sugar. I used the 14 oz Brewvint corn sugar alcohol boost already during the boil. I'm tempted to add that brown sugar in a day or two. Any suggestions?
     
  7. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    I made a similar beer with more floral hops (cascade, citra, etc), but I dry-hopped with a whole lot more hops, and it came out really nice
     
  8. danelhombre

    danelhombre Initiate (0) Sep 7, 2012 Texas

    How much did you use for the dry hop? And for how long?
     
  9. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    At 8 days (in ounces):
    .5 Citra- dry hop
    .5 Simcoe - dry hop
    .5 Amarillo Gold - dry hop
    .5 Cascade - dry hop

    At 16 days (in ounces):
    1 Citra- dry hop
    .5 Simcoe - dry hop
    .5 Cascade - dry hop
     
  10. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Make it easier on yourself and just use three cans of the Briess Rye LME next time.
     
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