Downside to this pump?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by pweis909, Dec 28, 2015.

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  1. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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  2. CADETS3

    CADETS3 Initiate (0) Dec 3, 2014 Texas

    Looks fine to me but why not save up the money for a stainless steel pump and never worry about replacing it.
     
  3. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    The polysulfone heads have the drawback of potential for stripped threads on the inlet and outlet. You might want to get QDs for those so that you don't have that potential.
     
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  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    From the one review of this product:

    “Solid pump, brittle plastic.

    Great little pump overall, small, quiet, good flow rate, primes about as easy as a chugger. However if you purchase this factor in the cost of the stainless steel pump ($30) head and replace it before even using it. I was putting together a half barrel system and without even getting to use one of the pumps I busted the threads off one head by hand tightening a fitting onto it. Totally worth it if you plan to grab the SS head.”

    Cheers!
     
  5. MarriedAtGI

    MarriedAtGI Zealot (569) Feb 26, 2013 Illinois

    The plastic heads can also break if dropped on a hard surface. This happened to a friend's March pump head, and he had to buy a stainless steel replacement before he ever got to use the pump. I bought my pump after him and went directly to stainless steel.
     
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I forgot to mention I was aware of he stainless steel head option and would consider it. Still, even with that it seems about 50 bucks cheaper than the chugger prices I see.
     
  7. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    As always, when two dissimilar materials meet, the softer one suffers...especially threads, so do as hofenunmaltz says and get a QD so you don't have to thread and unthread but once. A ball valve on the outlet will do the same thing and comes in handy anyway. Cheers

    If you are even remotely careful, you shouldn't have a problem.
     
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  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    QD? How do you spell that? Er... what is it?
     
  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Quick Disconnect. The concept is to apply a coupler only once to the plastic thread and use the other end of the QD coupler for multiple use connections thereafter.

    Cheers!
     
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  10. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Quick Disconnect, as Jack pointed out. You use the threads once, so they don't get stripped through use.

    Edit - guys in my club like Camlock fittings.
     
  11. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

  13. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Because I stripped out the threads on the first run of brass fittings and when I swapped to the 2 BV SS style I had issues getting it to thread correctly. And it is shiny.
     
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I have the SS heads and all of my pump problems have been motor related (thermal overload) :slight_frown:
     
  15. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Does one of the pictures of your system show a hose feeding a sight glass tube? What's going on there?
     
  16. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Seems interesting, like you said 50$ less than a chugger, Im curious is anybody has a pump curve for this little guy?
     
  17. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    5 gpm at 0 head so probably 1/2 that at 10' ...just a guess
     
  18. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    That's the stuff I'm talking about. Of course, I had to google pump curve, just to be sure I got it.
     
  19. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Kind of. I used high temp hose for the bulk of my tubing with high temp silicone for the final foot on both ends. Allows me to see the flow. Eventually want to get a sight glass when I get a conical and roll to tri clamps.
     
  20. DunkelFester

    DunkelFester Zealot (607) Aug 24, 2004 Pennsylvania

    I have both a march w/ poly head and a stainless chugger. I've had the polysulfone one much longer (at least 5 or 6 years now). I've always used Blichmann stainless connectors on it. I've threaded them on and removed them by hand more times than I could count (before/after every use). Gently hand-tight is all you ever need. Sure, you have to use some care to not cross-thread - but that goes for ANY material.

    The SS chugger has been around for about a year now, and it's nice. To be honest, the biggest difference I notice is when pumping very hot liquids (near boiling). The pump w poly head seems to struggle more with that -,particularly if pumping up a foot or two. The flow could get painfully slow at times. The stainless head has no such trouble, fwiw.
     
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