draft beer and inebriation

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by RenzoD, May 9, 2015.

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  1. kerry4porters

    kerry4porters Maven (1,495) Dec 31, 2012 Arizona

    Bar food is expensive you probably eat less to buy more beer empty stomach... be like Jim Koch eat yeast before you go out
     
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  2. nicholasofcusa

    nicholasofcusa Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2006 Florida

    I definitely drink faster and larger quantities when I'm out compared to home consumption (despite the cost). Almost never is this intentional. So maybe that is a factor with you, rather than it being a draft vs bottle issue.
     
  3. hophugger

    hophugger Grand Pooh-Bah (3,434) Mar 5, 2014 Virginia
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    It all comes down to how fast you drink and what the abv is, simply put........
     
  4. thedumbphase

    thedumbphase Initiate (0) Mar 4, 2015 New Jersey

    http://alcalc.oxfordjournals.org/content/46/6/686
    Here's a link to the full study. There's plenty of statistically significant findings. It has been repeated. Alcohol response is context dependent. You have a greater tolerance to alcohol in a familiar environment (in the OP's case "home") than in an unfamiliar one like a new bar.
     
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  5. cookiequiz

    cookiequiz Savant (1,119) Apr 15, 2013 California

    Interesting, indeed, thanks.
     
  6. Pantalones

    Pantalones Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2014 Virginia

    This was my first thought, too.

    32 ounces of "a couple beers" vs. 24 ounces of "a couple beers" could be a pretty noticeable difference... and if your at-home drinking regularly involves those slightly smaller European-style 11.2-ounce bottles, it's an even bigger difference, 32 ounces vs. 22.4 ounces.

    I don't think that would be all there is to it if just one beer when "drinking out" seems to have more effect than two at home, though. Maybe a combination of serving sizes and the psychological weirdness mentioned previously?
     
  7. russpowell

    russpowell Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,292) May 24, 2005 Arkansas
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    I'm usually in a certain state of mind at home leading to a normal pace. For me some of these craft beer bars turn me into a pig with or without food. It's all state of mind, I also recall drinking 4 beer before noon ( in a limited amount of time ) during an OU/texas game. Barely slowed down after that. I was anxious & agitated.
     
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  8. RenzoD

    RenzoD Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2011 Washington

    It's really a simple inquiry. I am just wondering if abv levels are somehow affected by bottling. I realize for a highly respected expert as yourself that may be a stupid question, but I know very little about the science of beer. Really though, I thank you for gracing us all with your two cents.
     
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  9. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    If bottle conditioned, by just a trace. The beer is primed with a small dose of sugar which is converted by the yeast to carbon dioxide (which carbonates the beer) and alcohol.
    It's quite normal for peoples' tolerance to alcohol to vary according to the time of day.
     
  10. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    When your out drinking carbs are your friend, and I cap myself at 2 and I'm done, high Abv 1 if I'm driving. Just the way it is. So my bar stays are usually 45 minutes, I can't do the all day stay like I could in my 20s.
     
  11. Darwin553

    Darwin553 Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2009 Australia

    Could it be that you are drinking slightly more quickly when you are out than when you are at home?
     
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  12. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    You two must be a fun couple. How about posting a pic of your wife with the cat sleeping on her head? :wink:
     
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  13. Amorfati

    Amorfati Initiate (0) Nov 22, 2013 Massachusetts

    Altitude has no effect on how your body metabolizes alcohol. The thing with altitude is a lot of people travel to higher altitudes from sea level and are conflating signs of altitude sickness (dizziness, fatigue, nausea) with the drinks hitting them harder. When altitude sickness, even mild cases, meets inebriation it can be a brutal mixture.
     
  14. SerialTicker

    SerialTicker Pooh-Bah (2,851) Jun 18, 2012 Missouri
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    That empty stomach buzz tho.
     
  15. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    In England, the bottled version of a beer sometimes has a higher ABV than the draught version.
     
  16. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I was at Sticks and Stones yesterday afternoon, and the Coronado Islander was about to blow just as they were prepared to replace it with Foothills IPA of the month. I was drinking an Islander and Josh the bartender says to me, "do you want a belated beer for your birthday?". I've never turned down a free beer, but the 2 Islanders, plus the earlier Rye Pale Ale from Preyer Brewing (opened yesterday in downtown GSO) made me quite happy and a bit light hearted. 3 beers usually is like nothing, but DAMN!
     
  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Right, no effect of altitude on metbolizing alcohol. However there is something other than altitude sickness that may be involved. Some people experience feelings of dehydration with altitude even when there is no altitude sickness. Alcohol at higher altitudes can enhance or exaggerate that feeling of dehydration.
     
  18. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Someti
    Sometimes markedly so. Adnams Broadside goes from 4.7% to 6.4% ABV.London Ptide goes from 4.1% to 4.7% and Bombardier goes likewise though some cans are 5.2%. It's an attempt to recover some of the flavour lost by going from cask to bottle/can. Doesn't work , you just get more taste but still lose all the nuances and loses one of its dimensions.
     
  19. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    A bit off topic, but I love the Adnams beers. I've had them there and here, but prefer to drink them there! We do not get them here now and I miss them. Nice reminder and please hoist one for my pleasure, sir!
     
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  20. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    Generaly alcohol is alcohol. If you eat before or while drinking it will absorb more slowly and as many people have noticed moving around may burn it off a little faster. I have noticed differences in carbonation in tap and bottled versions of the same beer. The alcohol in a more highly carrbonated beverage will absorb faster. The bar environment may also cause you to drink faster and you are more familiar with your home environment so the same level of inebriation may be less noticeable.
     
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